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  1.    27 Feb 2016 #1
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    For SSD - Do you disable System Restore and Hibernate?


    Hi.

    I've come across some articles that suggests to disable System Restore if you want better SSD performance.
    The articles are dated to 2013.

    True that if one disables System Restore, then an alternate backup software is needed. Yet, I'm wondering if this is something which you recommend if looking for improving SSD performance (exclude the risk of not having a backup)?

    The other bit is, though SSD are faster for boot time, with Win10 it takes about 25 seconds from cold boot to be on desktop.
    In Win8/8.1, it took me 8 seconds with the same Intel 520 240GB SSD.
    With Hibernate enabled, the boot is faster than 25 seconds but not 8 seconds.
    What are your opinions?

    Thanks
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  2.    27 Feb 2016 #2
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    Those tweaks have to do with saving space on an SSD as they are generally more expensive for their size(even though the prices are coming down). They have nothing to do with performance, ans the SSDs seek time is almost 0. They also save writes, which is also not important anymore, as the latest generation will probably out last your PC with normal day to day use.

    To your second question,
    do you have a lot of periferals, USB's, 2nd internal drive and such? Is it the BIOS POST that takes long?
    or do you have a lot of startup programs? Is it the OS loading part of the boot?
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  3.    27 Feb 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Those tweaks have to do with saving space on an SSD as they are generally more expensive for their size(even though the prices are coming down). They have nothing to do with performance, ans the SSDs seek time is almost 0. They also save writes, which is also not important anymore, as the latest generation will probably out last your PC with normal day to day use.

    To your second question,
    do you have a lot of periferals, USB's, 2nd internal drive and such? Is it the BIOS POST that takes long?
    or do you have a lot of startup programs? Is it the OS loading part of the boot?
    RE Q1: please read here: System Restore and Your SSD | The SSD Review
    and here: The SSD Optimization Guide Ultimate Windows 8 (And Win7) Edition | The SSD Review

    That's not the only place I found that says that.

    RE Q2:
    My OS is part of UEFI startup
    The CSM is configured to boot UEFI first and the UEFI OS is set to Windows OS.

    I currently have only Keyboard and Mouse connected, but also tested with Webcam and joystick connected. Same boot speeds.
    In my BIOS I setup to only partially load USB devices for faster boot times.

    I do have 2nd internal HDD and 3rd Internal SSD and 4th External HDD for backup. I did disconnect the external HDD but it didn't improve boot times.

    I keep startup programs and services to a minimum that is required by my daily use.
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  4.    27 Feb 2016 #4
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    Ok, type msconfig at your command prompt admin, then click on the BOOT tab, what do you have your Timeout set too?? Mine is set to 3 sec's
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  5.    27 Feb 2016 #5
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    mine is 3 as well as this is the lowest allowed minimum by Win10.
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  6.    27 Feb 2016 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by gil View Post
    mine is 3 as well as this is the lowest allowed minimum by Win10.
    Not true.
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    You can set it to zero in advanced settings:
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  7.    27 Feb 2016 #7
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    1st article is old:
    System Restore and Your SSD

    Les Tokar April 15, 2010 10 Comments
    Second one too
    The SSD Optimization Guide Ultimate Windows 8 (And Win7) Edition

    Les TokarApril 23, 2013 99 Comments
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  8.    27 Feb 2016 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Not true.
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    Thanks! I changed it now, but I don't have multi OS. Is this still valid? Shaving off 3 seconds?


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    1st article is old:

    Second one too
    I know they are old, I stated it in my OP.
    Yet, system recovery on win8/8.1 is not that different than win10. In addition my SSD is dated from mid 2012 (intel 520 series).

    So my question remains... would you mind doing a test with system recovery enabled and run crystal DiskMark and then totally disable System Recovery and try benchmarking again?

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  9.    27 Feb 2016 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by gil View Post
    Thanks! I changed it now, but I don't have multi OS. Is this still valid? Shaving off 3 seconds?

    I know they are old, I stated it in my OP.
    Yet, system recovery on win8/8.1 is not that different than win10. In addition my SSD is dated from mid 2012 (intel 520 series).

    So my question remains... would you mind doing a test with system recovery enabled and run crystal DiskMark and then totally disable System Recovery and try benchmarking again?

    Turning off System Protection is not going to change your boot up speed. But if you do, make sure you have a good image backup program installed, like Macrium Reflect Free.
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  10.    27 Feb 2016 #10
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    Well, if you have a good back up routine with images of your C:\ and full drive Images, you won't need restore points or system restore. if you have an issue at least with Macrium Reflect it takes less time to restore an image than it take system Restore to restore to a restore point. Otherwise they only take up space and don't effect start up time
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