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  1.    25 Jan 2016 #1
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    Aomei backup


    I am trying Aomei backup.
    When I click on the disc backup it appears that both MBR and C:\ are included but the next step, even after adding the word add, seems to include only C:\.
    Does anyone know if this invisible MBR is included in the back up?
    I also would like to ask if it is possible to run a disc backup without scheduling.
    And lastly, is the back up verified?
    Thank you
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  2.    25 Jan 2016 #2
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    Aomei continued


    Could someone please sere the attachment and tell me if the Aomei partitions are as they should be for a full image.

    I don't know if or why, F: backupprer, the extra one is in disc management. Should it be?
    Thank you
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Aomei.png  
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  3.    25 Jan 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by maranna View Post
    I am trying Aomei backup.
    When I click on the disc backup it appears that both MBR and C:\ are included but the next step, even after adding the word add, seems to include only C:\.
    Does anyone know if this invisible MBR is included in the back up?
    I also would like to ask if it is possible to run a disc backup without scheduling.
    And lastly, is the back up verified?
    Thank you
    A disk backup will backup the contents of the entire disk...you do not need to schedule backups (if schedule is checked, uncheck it) & the backup is not verified unless you have indicated so (menu, setting, other, check auto check backup). This will verify current and all future backups (recommended).
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  4.    25 Jan 2016 #4
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    F:\Backupper > appears to be your USB (Aomie BootDisk)

    You are looking to backup C: and should include MBR

    There is an "Option" setting to select "Verify"

    Use the Help link within the program to get user manual

    Thanks WildOne..
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  5.    26 Jan 2016 #5
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    I embarrassingly admit I was looking at the inserted flash drive. As far as verification goes, it is under settings> "other"> check image after completion - they do not use the word verify per se but that's their way of doing it.
    Sorry for the error and thank you for the replies.
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  6.    26 Jan 2016 #6
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    Note that when using Aomei Backupper, and maybe other such programs, a very useful trick, assuming you use a USB-connected backup medium, is to ensure it always has the same drive letter when plugged in.

    Without that, your backup plan's drive letter may not match that assigned to your USB backup medium when subsequently wishing to do a differential or incremental backup.

    This can waste time and be frustrating.

    Here's how to ensure the same drive letter is always assigned:
    1. Plug in your USB backup drive.
    2. Using MS Drive Management, change the letter assigned to the USB drive to 4 or 5 letters beyond the highest letter you ever expect to use (so that it is free to be assigned to your drive irrespective of what you have plugged in at the time).
    3. Now start your initial full backup.

    Thereafter your backup plan should always be ready to go.

    (Note: if you already have backup plans they can be edited to specify a new drive letter, or you can simply delete the plan, then explore for the image (as if preparing to mount it) and the image will then be added as a backup plan).
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  7.    26 Jan 2016 #7
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    imaging


    That you for that information. For about 15 years using macrium, I used to date every space I could encounter and label either l for lap or D for desk ; I also use A for Aomei or M for macrium. By creating a folder with this information in the external drive, I was always able to find my back ups. However, I am always open to new ways so I will keep your information aside for review. Thanx for that.
    May I ask, how do you use incremental backups in conjunction with a full image?
    Ideally and before this snafu with macrium to aomei , I would image right after a clean installation. I have 2 flash drives with passwords etc. (that I don't want in the PC) and whenever I revert or proceed I update 'documents' with these drives. So I am wondering if I can keep a clean image for good and then create an image that incrementals would be tied to.
    I do not understand when you want to recover an image how you do that. Do you click on the last incremental or the full image or what? I have read the best I can but the free version of Aomei ghosts out the manual.
    I do not have a schedule currently but was thinking of having one and using incremental images. I saw email there and wondered what benefit that could be to me.
    Could you simply shed some light on the topic?
    Thank you
    Peter
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  8.    26 Jan 2016 #8
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    I use Aomei.. it has an online manual and an offline one too - at least for the pro version.

    From their site:
    Incremental and Differential
    - how to start incremental/differential backups.

    Note that shows 'My File Backup (1)'. Now, if the USB disk used for backups is allocated a different drive letter to that expected, the incremental image (say) will fail about 30s after it's started.

    Yes, bad design. You'd think the program would check immediately. It doesn't, and then you either have to edit the backup plan (not so easy) or remember what drive letter the USB disk should have, and assign it. (And the error msg is rubbish too).

    What I've given solves all that hassle. I told the designer about it, and he thought it a great idea, and was going to include it in the documentation.

    So starting an incremental image is then as easy as shown. A couple of clicks.

    You can create a lot of incremental images based on one base image. In my opinion, you don't want to keep that going for a long time, as there are too many dependencies. The program can combine all those to create one updated base image, if you like.

    Or you can start again with a new base image.

    Recovering an image requires that you select the image you want to recover- the latest one, or earlier if you wish of the list of images available. Just select it.

    Partition or Volume Restore
    (but a list of incremental images isn't shown, alas).

    Notice it even deals with SSDs:
    Edit Partitions

    How you manage your images is up to you.
    I do all mine manually- I keep the backup drive in a physically separate location.
    If you're on a network, say, perhaps a schedule is more useful- depends how much space you have available.
    But to me it's events (changes) that tend to be the trigger for a backup more than a date.

    Index to their help info:
    AOMEI Backupper How-to Guides: Backup, Restore and Clone

    This may be of interest:
    Compare Different Editions of AOMEI Backupper

    However, some say only Macrium works fully with GPT/SSD as well as SATA/NTFS - but maybe current versions are ok. I'll find out soon when my custom laptop arrives..
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  9.    26 Jan 2016 #9
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    Aomei


    First thank you for your information. I think my specific question is; once a full image is created, and you schedule approximately 4 incremental images, if you want to stop, what do you do so all the incrementals are part of the full image?
    And secondly, once the full is created and you have about 4 incrementals created and now you want to recover, are you looking to the full image to recover or the incrementals.
    I am confused about how you coordinate the full with the incrementals. Please bear in mind I have never done this before so cannot envision these 2 tasks.
    Thanks a lot
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  10.    26 Jan 2016 #10
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    You would restore the last incremental backup 4...

    Which would restore the full backup and ALL prior incremental backups...

    Lets say your system did a backup today - while your system was corrupt (incremental 5)

    You would not want to restore that backup due to corruption -
    But rather incremental 4 from a prior date..
    You would also want to delete incremental 5 backup - so as not to restore the corruption again..
    Thus creating a New incremental 5 backup after restoring incremental 4
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