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  1.    09 Jan 2016 #11
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    Thank all for your feedback,I will look into the Macrium option but please bear with me regarding the option of using the Microsoft media creation tool,if I download this on my current Win 10 PC in the event of a system failure would I be able to reinstall/repair Win 10 onto my PC,thanks for your patience.
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  2.    09 Jan 2016 #12
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
    Thank all for your feedback,I will look into the Macrium option but please bear with me regarding the option of using the Microsoft media creation tool,if I download this on my current Win 10 PC in the event of a system failure would I be able to reinstall/repair Win 10 onto my PC,thanks for your patience.
    This is a much better solution for install/repair. Tech Bench

    May be obvious, but you will need to create a USB or DVD to boot from to install.
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  3.    09 Jan 2016 #13
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    UK
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    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86

    As far as I know the media creation tool allows you to create bootable media containing the installation files to reinstall the operating system.

    With a backup, either Macrium or Windows own, you aren't reinstalling the OS from scratch you are replacing it with an exact image made at the instant you created it.

    Macrium I assume has its own method of allowing you to create some bootable recovery media to use in the event that Windows will not boot.

    Windows also allows you to create a bootable 'repair disc' that offers various repair options, and this disc also allows recovery from an image. Again, you only use this if Windows will not boot correctly.
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  4.    09 Jan 2016 #14
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    Macrium Reflect Free now supports differential images ie you make a full back up, then a few days later you can make a differential image which just contains the changes. So you can either just recover initial full backup, or full backup+differential backup. Much more space efficient.

    Another great feature is you can install it as a dual boot option and you do not even need to use a recovery drive unless hard disk has failed or is badly corrupted.

    It also backs up linux partitions etc if you dual boot linux with windows.

    I have never had MRF fail on a variety of devices. Windows' own feature has not been developed since windows 7, and has failed me before (but my paranoia of always having at least two full image backups using different software saved me). In fact, MRF is so reliable, I only do an image backup using Easeus Todo now and then.

    You can mount image as drives (not sure about windows own system) and extract individual files.

    Finally MRF images are more compact and it is much faster, and has good repairing boot options.

    To me, MRF is the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world in the free versions.
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  5.    09 Jan 2016 #15
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    KS City
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    Win 10 Pro v1709 16299.19

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    I have tested this (Windows Backup) extensively and up to now find it 100% reliable. I've also tested it both running from within Windows and using the recovery media (DVD/CDR) that it asks you to create. Its also quick, with images being created in around 2.5 minutes, and with only a minute or so more for a restore (that's with an SSD).

    The only two disadvantages for me are that it only creates full images (no incremental possible) and you can not name backups at the time they are created. You can rename them afterwards but you must revert them back to the default name if you wish to restore the image. If you do not rename the backup then it gets overwritten the next time you create one.
    Good recommendation, never had a problem backing up this way.
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  6.    09 Jan 2016 #16
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    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86

    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    You can mount image as drives (not sure about windows own system) and extract individual files.
    I believe that you can mount the images (I asked that in another thread a few days ago) although its not a one click operation. You use disk management console and mount the image via that... I haven't had need to do that though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemimax View Post
    Good recommendation, never had a problem backing up this way.
    Thanks, its good to see another vote for Windows backup. In fact I've done 2 restores today while chasing down a bug in Edge as I don't want to corrupt my main set up. It just works
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  7.    09 Jan 2016 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    I believe that you can mount the images (I asked that in another thread a few days ago) although its not a one click operation. You use disk management console and mount the image via that... I haven't had need to do that though.



    Thanks, its good to see another vote for Windows backup. In fact I've done 2 restores today while chasing down a bug in Edge as I don't want to corrupt my main set up. It just works
    Ok so let me ask you a question on Windows image backup then. Say you can't boot to your C drive, to restore any of your windows image files, and the users boot files on their c-drive are corrupt, how would you restore one of your Windows image backups??
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  8.    09 Jan 2016 #18
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    Penn's Woods
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    Hey, Mike. While you wait for Mooly's response. The system image restore is covered by Brink at http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html which he links to out of Boozad's tutorial on creating the image at: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5...dows-10-a.html
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  9.    09 Jan 2016 #19
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    Maine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Man View Post
    Hey, Mike. While you wait for Mooly's response. The system image restore is covered by Brink at http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html which he links to out of Boozad's tutorial on creating the image at: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5...dows-10-a.html
    I didn't say I didn't know how.....I wanted to know how Mooly would......Word Man.....darn it.....
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  10.    09 Jan 2016 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    I didn't say I didn't know how.....I wanted to know how Mooly would......Word Man.....darn it.....
    OK, sorry, didn't mean to rain on your parade. Thought it could help any future readers (or OP to decide among alternatives) is all. Shouldnta named you I guess.
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