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  1.    18 Oct 2015 #21
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    Hi,

    It's just to sidestep a problem TS is having with Windows Backup insisting on including his secondary drive in the system backup, something he does not want and is trying to figure out why Windows Backup insists on doing so.
    As are we for that matter.
    Hence Macrium to backup and then clean that disk so it will no longer be included in the system backup set.

    Cheers,
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  2.    18 Oct 2015 #22
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    May I suggest to open the case and swap the sata cables between G: & C: drives so that Windows OS will be on disk 0. Also make sure that you set the Windows OS drive to be first boot priority in BIOS.
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  3.    18 Oct 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Run Windows Backup to build the system image you want. It should run fine and has no reason to include the G: drive. You can then restore the image from drive D: to G:
    If I were to do this, wouldn't I have the same problem after restoring my secondary HDD back to its original state? If I wanted to make another newer backup at a later time, windows would still recognize my secondary HDD as system wouldn't it?

    And to address another matter, yes I would prefer to use the built in windows backup rather than a third party software. Sorry if that seems like the wrong choice. If I have to keep troubleshooting windows backup for a couple more days I will probably give up and switch to a third party software.
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  4.    18 Oct 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    May I suggest to open the case and swap the sata cables between G: & C: drives so that Windows OS will be on disk 0. Also make sure that you set the Windows OS drive to be first boot priority in BIOS.
    Done and done. No change...
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  5.    18 Oct 2015 #25
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    Thanks. At least we try for a possible cause. From Admin Command Prompt:
    1. diskpart
    2. select disk 1 ===> should be G: drive now.
    3. list partition
    4. exit


    What Type does it show for the partitions ?
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  6.    18 Oct 2015 #26
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    Hi,

    If I were to do this, wouldn't I have the same problem after restoring my secondary HDD back to its original state? If I wanted to make another newer backup at a later time, windows would still recognize my secondary HDD as system wouldn't it?
    Not necessarily, you cleared the disk using diskpart, remember ? If some of the files you have on there are actually part of the OS and go missing because the disk was wiped clean then Windows will start complaining, that's for sure.
    But at least then we know what to do to fix it and from what I've seen on that D: drive these ar not essential files as far as Windows is concerned.
    When the hardlink to the second drive is broken Windows will try to recreate the folder(s) locally.
    Not that I'd bank on it but I know it is capable of doing so.

    All this and what topgundcp is asking you to check serves the same goal really. We need to find out which is which before advising any further.

    You do not want the OS spread across several disks I presume, right ?

    Cheers,
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  7.    18 Oct 2015 #27
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  8.    18 Oct 2015 #28
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    Hi,

    So it's not the disk itself it's what's stored on it that Win Backup sees as part of the system.

    On your d: drive there's a folder called "Program Data + Files". Do you mind taking another screenshot with that folder expanded and "other programs" as well while you're at it ?

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
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  9.    18 Oct 2015 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Hi,

    So it's not the disk itself it's what's stored on it that Win Backup sees as part of the system.

    Cheers,
    Agreed. That's what I am trying to find out by asking OP to do the above. Now we need to find out what it is. For testing, try to rename the folders one by one. If you are able to rename it then rename it back to the original then try the next one. If a folder or files within the folder are being locked by Windows then Windows will refuse to rename it.
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  10.    18 Oct 2015 #30
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    Hi,

    Yeah sure.
    I understand perfectly well what you're trying to do and that's also why I suggested to make a backup with Macrium Reflect and then clear the disk.
    If there's anything on it that Windows thinks belongs to itself then you can always restore folder by folder etc.
    If Windows doesn't complain then there's a good chance some of the software that's linked to that drive stops working and/or won't uninstall properly.
    Guess you know what I was driving at albeit in a less conventional way.

    Instead of renaming the folders one by one, he could also try to copy or, better still, move them to a dedicated folder on another drive. That would have the same effect but hopefully faster won't you think ?

    Cheers,
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