Restore Backup Image from one computer to another

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  1. Posts : 15,505
    Windows10
       #51

    sgeneris said:
    Thanx.

    I would prefer not to rely on chances.

    I know about the redeploy, but it requires the paid version and some think it's not necessary. Do you know what it solves?
    Redeploy was more effective back in days of Windows 7 with its crappy driver support. You would copy an image backup to new pc, and it would not boot properly as it would not have all the drivers the new pc needed. What redeploy does is copy the missing drivers to pc (from winpe mode).

    However, it is rarely needed as Windows 10/11 automatically fixes missing drivers.

    The one case that falls over quite often even with W10/11 is if the new pc has an nvme drive as you cannot see the drive on new pc, unless you include driver on the Macrium Rescue Drive.

    There is actually a great way to do it using dism commands that is very robust but needs quite a detailed knowledge of dism.

    Here are the outline steps:-

    1) get key drivers for new pc from vendor website (or if pc has W10/11 installed already, export the drivers with dism) and copy to usb flash drive.

    2) make a custom install.wim of old pc

    Create Windows 10 ISO image from Existing Installation

    3) create a standard usb installation drive and copy install.wim and boot.wim to hard drive.

    3) inject drivers of new pc into install.wim (and nvme drivers into boot.wim)

    4) recreate a usb installation drive for a case where install.wim > 4 GB, substituting custom install.wim and boot.wim
    Create bootable USB installer if install.wim is greater than 4GB

    Boot from usb drive on new pc, and it will install files from old pc and sort drivers at same time.


    Sounds complicated but @Kari's tutorials show the steps. It really works well once you get the hang of it.
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  2. Posts : 81
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #52

    idgat said:
    But I'm beginning to suspect something of Nordic folklore origin here ....

    And then there's always De tre bukkene Bruse ...
    idgat, I, otoh, don't suspect -- I KNOW.

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    Thanx, cerberus.

    I will review this and respond if I have questions.

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    @Cerberus

    cerberus said:
    cerberus,

    Sounds complicated but @Kari's tutorials show the steps. It really works well once you get the hang of it.
    It does sound complicated and, having not touched ever DISM, not for beginners. Do you have the links to Kari's tutorials? I will have to review the instructions and see if it's smtg I can handle.

    In the meantime I will put together an alternative based on the various advice I got here and I will have to decide between the two. If I go the latter way, I have a question:

    <However, it is rarely needed as Windows 10/11 automatically fixes missing drivers.>

    But if I have the constraint of installing an old version of W10 to replace a pre-installed version thereof ***without Internet connection***, where will it find the drivers.

    Thanx.

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    cerberus,

    I found Kari's tutorials.

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    @Cerberus

    I've reviewed your stepwise outline and took a brief look @@Kari's tutorials.

    If I understand it correctly, it will install the OS of the existing computer with the drivers of the target computer on C:, which is OK. But: I have my apps on partition D: and my data on partition E:, which means that after the install I will have to partition the target disk (i.e., reduce C:) and COPY the content of the 2 partitions. It's not a big deal, only an additional hassle.

    I was advised here that the only way to guarantee that 100% of the customization by me and apps (done since Windows10 came out and which I cannot re-create!) is to clone the disk, so before I try anything else, I would like to find out if there is a way based on cloning and the advice I got here. Thoughts?

    I will put together a tentative stepwise for cloning using the input I got here for review of those more knowledgeable than me.
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  3. Posts : 43,242
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #53

    I have my apps on partition D:
    Could you clarify that please?

    Do you mean..
    a. You made a registry modification such that programs you download are installed to that partition by default
    or
    b. For each and every program you download, you manually choose to set the install path to D:
    or
    c. Are you taking only and exclusively about Store apps?
    or
    d. Something else.

    This adds a whole level of extra difficulty on top of BIOS/UEFI, drivers missing and not upgrading your build, and in principle would make cloning your build a better option, if that actually met all requirements.

    In addition you would probably need to change the partition type for D: to GPT...

    Thanks.
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  4. Posts : 81
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #54

    dalchina said:
    Could you clarify that please?

    Do you mean..
    a. You made a registry modification such that programs you download are installed to that partition by default
    or
    b. For each and every program you download, you manually choose to set the install path to D:
    or
    c. Are you taking only and exclusively about Store apps?
    or
    d. Something else.

    Thanks.
    b, but it did not always work and some programs forced themselves in C. Also, programs also stored stuff on C: even if when they installed on C: -- had no control over this.

    There is LOTS of various customization over years since W10 came out -- no way I can replicate it. If you asked me I could not specify all of it. For example, there are symbolic links that enable me to backup and restore E: via OneDrive (I use Macrium to backup/restore C: and simple COPY to backup D:). I cleaned 99% of Store apps early on, and deleted anything I could related to Store.
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  5. Posts : 43,242
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #55

    As an aside, you will be aware that even if you choose to install a program on D: in some cases the majority of the space used by that program may well still be on C: - certainly its registry keys, drivers and services if any, and start menu shortcuts will be- and potentially much more.
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  6. Posts : 81
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #56

    dalchina said:
    As an aside, you will be aware that even if you choose to install a program on D: in some cases the majority of the space used by that program may well still be on C: - certainly its registry keys, drivers and services if any, and start menu shortcuts will be- and potentially much more.
    @dalchina

    Exactly, I just said that replying to your question.
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  7. Posts : 43,242
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #57

    For interest- people sometimes run into problems with MBR/GPT conversion e.g.
    Can't boot after running mbr2gpt
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  8. Posts : 81
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #58

    To all,

    Here is my stepwise procedure ***for disk cloning *** taking into consideration all the comments/gotchas I received to this point.
    It assumes Macrium free will do the tasks, unless you know otherwise. Any corrections, solutions, advice appreciated:

    1. Image the target disk (backup if failure, to return) with Macrium

    2. Clone the source disk with Macrium.

    3. Extract target drivers to external drive.
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    - open an elevated command prompt
    - run DISM /online /export-driver /destination: drive/folder
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    4. Clean-install early W10 (ISO downloaded from MS) ***without Internet connection***, replacing the pre-installed OS.
    Possible issues:
    - activation: can't install without Internet (I am told it's possible) -- if not, solution?
    - license:
    - original W8.1 OEM, valid W10 Pro upgrade (contradictory opinions) -- solution?
    - target W10 Home -- solution?

    5. Install Macrium free
    Possible issues: target does not boot
    - GPT/UEFI -- solution?
    - SSD nvme -- solution?
    - Intel CPU >= gen 11 -- solution?
    - other -- solution?

    6. Create Macrium Rescue CD (can integrate extracted target drivers?)

    7. Boot CD and install cloned disk
    Possible problems:
    target does not boot -- solutions?

    8. Restore extracted drivers
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    - open an elevated command prompt
    - enter the command cd external drive
    - run PNPUTIL /add-driver *.inf /subdirs /install C: (where on C:? does not specify external drive?)
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    Possible problems?

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    dalchina said:
    For interest- people sometimes run into problems with MBR/GPT conversion e.g.
    Can't boot after running mbr2gpt
    Yup, I noticed that in your initial comments and incorporated it in my stepwise I just posted. Requires solution in case.

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    dalchina said:
    For interest- people sometimes run into problems with MBR/GPT conversion e.g.
    Can't boot after running mbr2gpt
    @dalchina,

    Incidentally, the page you linked to with MBR2GPT issues is an excellent example of what I referred to in my rant: I do not care what the value of GPT/UEFI is, the kind of complications caused by fixing problems is unjustified. The industry makes the changes but both unwilling/unable to prevent those complications, dumping major effort on users who are expected to debug it.
    Last edited by sgeneris; 11 May 2023 at 16:28.
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  9. Posts : 162
    Windows 11
       #59

    I should really stay out of this, but.... In response to some of your points:
    1. Image the target disk if the Macrium Rescue USB/CD will boot on the new PC and see the drives. If not then install Macrium and then create a Macrium Rescue USB/CD. Or just plan to install Macrium at this step and create the Rescue USB/CD
    3. When booted on the new PC
    4. Why bother with this step. The virtual license for this PC will already be registered, and the OS will be overwritten with the restore of the clone?
    5. Macrium may already have been installed on the new PC in step 1.
    7. Try the Macrium Windows Repair option
    Finally, a USB will be much faster than a CD, and can easily be reused/modified at any time in the future. Unless you are tied to CD consider configuring the new PC without a CD/DVD drive.
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  10. Posts : 81
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #60

    @quandary

    Thanx.

    1. Yeah, I think I'll install Macrium first and create the CD -- cleaner.
    3. Yes, of course.
    4. I thought of testing the license issue, but u're right, I'll skip it.
    5. Yup, without 4 it's there.
    7. If I recall correctly it's in the paid version.

    I have revised per your corrections. I'll let others comment and I'll post the finally revised version.
    Now if only I could get solution suggestions.
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