Restore Backup Image from one computer to another

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  1. Posts : 4,693
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       #11

    sgeneris said:
    >Probably. Win10 is quite good at adjusting to new hardware.

    I assume you mean the Macrium utility.
    No It means win10 is quite good at adjusting to new hardware.

    You have not replied to the following:

    Laplink PCMover and Easeus Todo PCTrans
    I assume they're not free either. Which is better?
    Do they take care of those steps -- is it all automated, or require manual intervention?
    Do they work with Winpe?
    Who are you referring to. They were not suggested by me.
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  2. Posts : 96
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #12

    Thanx.

    > The main 'other issue' is that the new machine will be a UEFI system requiring a GPT formatted disk. Legacy CSM support is no longer available in the newer UEFI machines, so you would not be able to boot from a legacy MBR image if you restored that.

    There is a slight chance it's a BIOS/MBR -- it's new, but older model. If not:

    >clean installed the same version of Windows 10 (20H2) on the new machine in UEFI/GPT mode. Then I restored just the C: partition from the Legacy/MBR system image to replace the C: partition created by the clean install. Finally I ran the Macrium recovery drive's 'fix Windows boot problems' tool to create the correct BCD entry.

    Is the Macrium fixing tool in the free ed, or must I purchase the paid one?

    Yes, that's what occurred to me too, but my apps are on a D: separate partition and data on a E partition. When I regularly back up I just COPY their content to D and E folders on the backup disk. So to complete the transfer, I would just create D: E: partitions on the new system and COPY to them -- should work.

    >Macrium Reflect does indeed have a ReDeploy tool in the paid version for restoring to dissimilar hardware, but I have never yet found it to be necessary. It certainly wasn't needed for the migration I described above. That was an image from an Intel based system transferred to an AMD based one. All the drivers would be different, but Windows 10 itself sorted out all the right drivers to use on the first boot up.

    I see. So the restore will transfer the old drivers, but when I boot the new system it will use the new drivers.

    The old system is W10 Pro but there's a possibility the new is Home. So what happens when I install the old W10 Pro licensewise?

    Thanx.

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    SIW2 said:
    No It means win10 is quite good at adjusting to new hardware.



    Who are you referring to. They were not suggested by me.
    Somebody on another site.

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    @Bree, @SIW2, @dalchina

    Somebody on another site warned me about possible license complications:

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    You may have Windows license ACTIVATION issues (the newer hardware may be very different, like the drivers you mentioned) as well as some application license issues. Be sure to copy down your Macrium REFLECT license, and to use the "Help/Remove license" feature from the old System so that it may be successfully activated on the reDeployed System.
    ---------------

    It's a bit complicated already:

    The old computer came pre-installed with an older version of Windows and I replaced it with an early W10 when it was free to do so. There is no label on the laptop, so I dk what the original key was and whether my replacement changed it. When I use cmd line or powershell I get one key, when I use regedit it gives me another.

    Before I do the restore from backup I need to install another 1519 copy of W10 that I downloaded from MS years ago for free on the new computer. Any idea what will happen license'activation wise when I do and then when I restore from backup?

    Thanx.
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  3. Posts : 2,216
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
       #13

    Restored Win 10 images from one device to another plenty of times, never a hiccup.

    Win 10 is extremely forgiving about changed hardware, it will auto update to the new hardware when restoration is complete ("Please wait, we're doing something-or-other ...etc" type of message)

    Go for it. Just do it and stop trying to 2nd guess what might or might not happen

    Some issues/options to consider

    - if the target device already has an OS installed, create the MR boot USB on that and click the option to include necessary/required drivers (for the target device). Macrium will decide/identify what might be needed

    - if the target device doesn't have an OS installed, restore the image to a drive connected to any other device, then just put the new drive into the target device, Boot up and Windows will add the (new) required drivers

    - when the imaged system is in the target device and up and running and all Windows updates are complete, INCLUDING HARDWARE, open Control Panel > Device Manger > View > Show hidden devices. All the "old"/superfluous drivers will be faint in appearance. Right click on those and remove and/or uninstall.

    EDIT : If the target device has had Win 10/11 on it previously, then that's where the license will be, with the device and not with the "incoming" OS, cloned/imaged or installed
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  4. Posts : 96
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Thanx idgat.

    I have not gotten the new laptop yet -- I wanna make sure this will work before I do. I am getting different replies from diff sources and I am trying to integrate them and make sure I do it correctly.

    From what you're saying:

    >If the target device has had Win 10/11 on it previously, then that's where the license will be, with the device and not with the "incoming" OS, cloned/imaged or installed.

    Indeed, but there is the problem. The target will come with a pre-installed W10/11 and I must install my early W10 1519 on (no Windows updates, that's the whole point)

    Product Name: Windows 10 Pro
    Version: 1519 10586.679 (64-bit OS)

    BTW, do you know of any stepwise instructions for the procedure? From Macrium maybe?

    Thanx.
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  5. Posts : 2,216
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
       #15

    sgeneris said:
    .... the new laptop
    That could create a problem for my suggestion about imaging the drive externally (on another device) then inserting it in the target device. Most new laptop's require almost a degree of electrical engineering just to get at the installed drive. And tampering could cause issues with the warranty
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  6. Posts : 2,216
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
       #16

    Suggested steps
    - minimal setup the new device, including updates
    - install Macrium Reflect and/or AOMEI and create images (in case device needs to be returned)
    - also create boot USBs for both MR and AOMEI, including any driver options (Why? Because some devices require drivers to restore/install, that aren't included/available e.g. one of my laptops requires drivers not included with Windows, to enable the drive to be accessed).

    Boot from the USB and restore the image.

    Still a bit curious about why you'd want to install an old (and fast becoming out-dated) OS (with all its warts and bugs) from an old device ?
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  7. Posts : 43,361
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #17

    No, Macrium says they have a separate utility for transfer -- it's not the backup itself
    .

    That's what I referred to. So your 'no' is inapplicable.

    And thank you for your reply.

    Macrium Redeploy performs a search for new drivers- from, amongst other places, the Windows driver database.
    This overview is for an older version of Macrium but gives a good idea:
    ReDeploy a system to new hardware
    Last edited by dalchina; 09 May 2023 at 01:38.
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  8. Posts : 96
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #18

    idgat said:
    That could create a problem for my suggestion about imaging the drive externally (on another device) then inserting it in the target device. Most new laptop's require almost a degree of electrical engineering just to get at the installed drive. And tampering could cause issues with the warranty
    I do not intend to fool around with drives.

    First I need to know if I can install W10 1511 on the target PC replacing the pre-installed OS without license/activation problems.

    If no, how do I work around that?

    If yes, I intend to follow your steps
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  9. Posts : 43,361
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #19

    First I need to know if I can install W10 1511 on the target PC replacing the pre-installed OS without license/activation problems
    That's already been answered above. Do you have a specific question?
    There are also helpful tutorials related to activation should you have difficulty.
    I answered this in post #2

    - did you not see:
    It is likely that a newly purchased PC will come with Win 11. Your transferred O/S would be activated with that license.

    If you have Pro now, for example, but the purchased PC has a Home license, there's another step there.
    - and others have commented.
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  10. Posts : 96
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #20

    idgat,

    <That could create a problem for my suggestion about imaging the drive externally (on another device) then inserting it in the target device. Most new laptop's require almost a degree of electrical engineering just to get at the installed drive. And tampering could cause issues with the warranty>

    Not sure I follow. My backups are all on an external drive. After I install W10 1511 on the new laptop, I intend to restore from that external drive -- is that a problem?

    To your suggestions:

    For clarity source system is Dell, taret system Gateway.

    <minimal setup the new device, including updates>

    I do not intend any setup, only W10 1511 install; windows updates are disabled (it's the whole idea).

    The W10 1511 I have is not an OEM copy, but downloaded from MS -- won't it install with MS generic drivers?

    <install Macrium Reflect and/or AOMEI and create images (in case device needs to be returned)>

    Good idea, but if OS installed with MS drivers,it won't restore with Gateway drivers for return.

    <also create boot USBs for both MR and AOMEI, including any driver options (Why? Because some devices require drivers to restore/install, that aren't included/available e.g. one of my laptops requires drivers not included with Windows, to enable the drive to be accessed).

    If W10 1511 installs with generic drivers, these drivers, not Gateway will be included in the boot USB -- are they enough?

    <Boot from the USB and restore the image.>

    I will restore from the external drive. Won't that restore with the DELL source drivers rather than target Gateway?

    <Still a bit curious about why you'd want to install an old (and fast becoming out-dated) OS (with all its warts and bugs) from an old device ?>

    Long story: it took me years to customize the system ***exactly the way I want it***, I do not need anything else and I sure don't want MS to mess it up, keep changing it for no good reason, bombard me with ads and spy on me. Neither do I want to waste time an effort learning new useless stuff.
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