Accessing BIOS (boot order) in WIN10

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  1. Posts : 5,048
    Windows 10/11 Pro x64, Various Linux Builds, Networking, Storage, Cybersecurity Specialty.
       #31

    Ghot said:
    @dalin

    Well, it seems there's only one solution...




    Attachment 369805
    You just added one more hole. OK, you must live in a suburban area instead of a rural one!

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       #32

    Unfortunate experience. This laptop (Lenovo t440s) is ex-business.. when the warranty expires they sell them on.. £200 for 256Gb 14" screen with small internal battery (fooled the airport staff once!) and very large removable one.. i5.. works reliably. Been on several international trips with it, less battery.. acceptable weight.

    Fingerprint sensor and SIM card capability (which I don't use). Slightly faster than my other with a bigger better screen and a video card bought new. This is about 8 years old, the other maybe 7...
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    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #33

    dalin said:
    @ Ghot and dalchina: Thanks, made me laugh -:) , however, rather than shooting at the monitor (the monitor works fine) better to shoot at the desktop -:). I am now in two minds- 1. keep the desktop and take chance that the system does not crash, (due to my age it might work without crashing until the end of my days -:) ) becuse without accessing the BIOS I can really shoot a few rounds at it if in case it crashes

    or 2, take it apart and if the " newly installed parts" are really new, sell them to minimnize the financial loss and buy a brand new computer. Since 1983, when I got my first computer, I always bought one brand new, then a used one, againa brand new, then a used one etc .It always worked fine, this time is an exception to the rule.



    I changed the pic to a desktop with bullet holes. I realized the monitor with bullet holes, didn't make much sense.

    Ok...Get the free program Speccy... run it, post a screenshot.
    Get the free version... here: Speccy - Free Download


    Just post a screen shot of the first page... like this...

    Accessing BIOS (boot order) in WIN10-speccy-may-2021.png



    Once I see approx. what you have now... I can find you a refurbished one (by a reputable company)... cheap.
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  4. Posts : 31,651
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #34

    dalin said:
    ... take it apart ... and buy a brand new computer....

    There is one way that may well get you into the BIOS - take it apart and remove the hard drive(s).

    On powering up without anything to boot from most PCs will boot direct to the BIOS, either that or give you the option to enter the BIOS setup.
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  5. Posts : 17
    WIN10 21H2
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       #35

    Well, there seems to be a solution, albeit not The desired one😕A friend I mentioned AT The beginning recommended me as The last resource to disconnet The CMOS battery for about 10 seconds, then connect it again, that might solve The problem. So I did that, and The machine does not boot AT all now. Checking with my friend, he asked IF I did shut down with The ON power Button. I did not, I shut down with win 10 shutdown. He exclaimed that this was a big mistake, and The MB is very likely gone for ever now. Pressing The power Button, there are a few fan spins, then quiet, after a few seconds a beep sound and (probably) The HD starts spinning, The powrer remains on and that is all, it does not boot. So, a sort of a solution, this a few days ago purchased pc is now very likely a throwaway. I'll ask my acquintance WHO gave me The Cmos battery advice to cover part of The cost of a new machine (joke). My wife is furious, but i laugh what else can I do? I'm writling this ön my smartphone, sorry forthe tipos 😟
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  6. Posts : 14,019
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #36

    dalchina said:
    Unfortunate experience. This laptop (Lenovo t440s) is ex-business.. when the warranty expires they sell them on.. £200 for 256Gb 14" screen with small internal battery (fooled the airport staff once!) and very large removable one.. i5.. works reliably. Been on several international trips with it, less battery.. acceptable weight.

    Fingerprint sensor and SIM card capability (which I don't use). Slightly faster than my other with a bigger better screen and a video card bought new. This is about 8 years old, the other maybe 7...
    I've had success with 'used' Notebooks bought from TigerDirect 3 years ago, a 12" and a 13". Both were Dell Latitudes and inexpensive at 149 and 159 USD, came with Win10 Pro. They were Refurbished and carried a 1-year warranty, still working, wife has the 13". They probably were leased by a company and returned to that leasing company then to a licensed rebuilder [which provided the warranty] then to TD.
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  7. Posts : 582
    Windows 10 Home
       #37

    dalin said:
    Well, there seems to be a solution, albeit not The desired oneA friend I mentioned AT The beginning recommended me as The last resource to disconnet The CMOS battery for about 10 seconds, then connect it again, that might solve The problem. So I did that, and The machine does not boot AT all now. Checking with my friend, he asked IF I did shut down with The ON power Button. I did not, I shut down with win 10 shutdown. He exclaimed that this was a big mistake, and The MB is very likely gone for ever now. Pressing The power Button, there are a few fan spins, then quiet, after a few seconds a beep sound and (probably) The HD starts spinning, The powrer remains on and that is all, it does not boot. So, a sort of a solution, this a few days ago purchased pc is now very likely a throwaway. I'll ask my acquintance WHO gave me The Cmos battery advice to cover part of The cost of a new machine (joke). My wife is furious, but i laugh what else can I do? I'm writling this ön my smartphone, sorry forthe tipos 
    A single beep with no error on the monitor can be a memory problem. Unplug the computer, remove the case, observe static electricity precautions, then remove and reseat the memory modules and see if the computer starts. If not, remove both modules and install each, one at a time in case one is defective, and see if the computer starts.

    Ben
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  8. Posts : 17
    WIN10 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #38

    [QUOTE=Ben Myers;2440872]A single beep with no error on the monitor can be a memory problem. Unplug the computer, remove the case, observe static electricity precautions, then remove and reseat the memory modules and see if the computer starts. If not, remove both modules and install each, one at a time in case one is defective, and see if the computer starts.

    Have tried that, no avail. An acquintance´s acquintance thinks the motherboard is defect, because it already had a problem when the PC functioned, it skipped the BIOS on upstart , so it was an indication that the MB had not been in good health before. Since the PC has a new HDD and a new graphic card, I feel it would be a pity to scrap it, so I´m considering the possibility of replacing the MB if I can get one (very probably used or refurbished) not so easy, because these MB´s are not on sale in my country, they are on eBay or Amazon, but there´s the problem of paying customs duties (not so bad), VAT (value added tax - much worse) and the customs clearance fee (astronomical) on things shipped to my country from the USA or Britain, where these HB´s are on sale.
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  9. Posts : 14,019
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #39

    As to the "it skipped the BIOS on upstart part", the BIOS [Basic Input Output System] is read following turning the power on the the OS reads what the settings are so it knows what to work with. But it may not show the process on the screen, the BIOS may have a setting in it to show how long the P.O.S.T. [Power On Self Test] shows on the screen if at all. An old 'trick' when CPUs were getting faster and the HDD couldn't spin up as fast was to display that screen, show all the process or to set it to show for several seconds, let the drive catch up to the computer.
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       #40

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    Ben Myers said:
    A single beep with no error on the monitor can be a memory problem. Unplug the computer, remove the case, observe static electricity precautions, then remove and reseat the memory modules and see if the computer starts. If not, remove both modules and install each, one at a time in case one is defective, and see if the computer starts.

    Have tried that, no avail. An acquintance´s acquintance thinks the motherboard is defect, because it already had a problem when the PC functioned, it skipped the BIOS on upstart , so it was an indication that the MB had not been in good health before. Since the PC has a new HDD and a new graphic card, I feel it would be a pity to scrap it, so I´m considering the possibility of replacing the MB if I can get one (very probably used or refurbished) not so easy, because these MB´s are not on sale in my country, they are on eBay or Amazon, but there´s the problem of paying customs duties (not so bad), VAT (value added tax - much worse) and the customs clearance fee (astronomical) on things shipped to my country from the USA or Britain, where these HB´s are on sale.
    Sounds awkward.
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