Options For Backup Hard Drive?

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  1. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #11

    Hi there
    First of all "Data Backup" usually means a lot different to "OS Backup or System Backup".
    For data that doesn't change much e.g say Music / video files - these are really "Achives" and only need to be backed up once whatever method you use. USB3 connection from an enclosure drive should be decently fast enough.

    Then future data backups - you only need to copy files that are new or have been changed.

    If you have a NAS it's easy - simply run rsync or (grsysnc if you want a GUI). You can even do it through the WSL on Windows if you install WSL. programs like rysnc are dead easy to use -- check all the parameters of course, and practice a couple of times.

    Robocopy I've never had much luck with but if it works for you --fine. I wouldn't get involved with incremental / differential backup for DATA -- more hassle than its worth if you have a load of files -- bite the bullet and go for rsync.

    System backup --things like macrium -- great here and for these incremental / differential backups might be worth while - but these days taking a backup of a Windows system usually only takes around 12 mins on fast hardware so just take more backups when modyfying / updating systems.

    Everybody has their own "relative importance" to data -- for absolutely critical stuff just get say 100GB of cloud storage - both GOOGLE DRIVE and Ms's ONEDRIVE are good value - and store that stuff in the cloud too. (If you are already an OFFICE/365 subscriber you get a whole wodge of ONEDRIVE storage included. For others ONEDRIVE costs around EUR 1.50 a month for 100GB (cheaper if you pay in one go for a year up front) and GOOGLEDRIVE is about the same.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
    Thread Starter
       #12

    Do have Office 365, Do Use OneDrive, 90 percent of the Purchased Music is stored on there already, as a ways back had a Windows Phone from 2011 i think it was, til 2015, and for a while there when they had Xbox Music/Groove Music going they had free music albums lol, grabbed everyone lol

    I knew i probably was backing up too much, when the music folder doesn't change that much, unless i buy more usually at Christmas or Birthday

    Laptop user folders setup same way as Desktop, moved manually via Editing Location on each user folder, i guess that wasn't proper way to do that, sometime i'll have to fix that, thankfully i don't have to restore image that often

    learned alot with this topic, and some great info

    Did Full Image of Storage 4Tb over night, manually started M.2 SSD C: Drive Image when i woke up at 11am, shows right now 1 hour, 42 minutes remaining, Transfer rate 94mb/s, guess using Laptop a while til this finishes ((never 12 minutes on my hardware for some reason))

    Not even Much On C: M.2 SSD, Windows, a few small programs, 1 game, that i may or may not move to Game SSD in the future.

    When i do my next clean install, hopefully i setup things better, or end up using my own storage folders on Storage drive..

    still learning each and every day on proper system setup in all aspects
    Last edited by AMDMan2016; 01 Jul 2021 at 14:20.
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  3. Posts : 13,995
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #13

    I use a different 'take' on the drive part, have a couple of portable USB 3 drive docks that hold 2 drives, one on Windows and one on Linux Mint, useful for several things and easy to change drives as desired. Most uses are for backing up a client's drive before repair. [One is also a hardware clone, byte for byte and cannot be connected to a computer at the time of the cloning.]
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  4. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Approxmiately 5 Hours to backup Game SSD, with it's Full First Image, Transfer Rate 132.0/mb/s, though does up and down at times, nothing else is running on system, took 4-5 hours to do the M.2 Image as well, isn't much on that drive either. After this only doing differential or 1 Full a month i think.

    Maybe thinking of my old Asus H110M with USB 3.1 ports, don't remember it this slow in the past, but in June 2020 traded that old motherboard, and system in for newer one, Intel 10700 on Gigabyte B460M-DS3H Motherboard, and newer Thermaltake Case--and yes i did a complete clean install on system on 12/25/2020

    All Drivers in
    don't think much else can do

    Did switch boot drive from Samsung 860 Evo 250Gb, to M.2 Nvme 500GB, it is set for pcie 3.0 x4 in uefi bios

    Swapped out 1Tb Black hard drive for WD Black 4TB, and added Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb for game storage since got system home in late June 2020

    Still using Stock CPU cooler til can afford to get needed supplies to upgrade to Aftermarket CPU cooler, and have peace in my real life to do that install for first time



    Anyways will get this done, then explore the tips here and follow those

    Marked as Solved, as don't think much else can do with this to make it any better, Thanks all for the tips, and suggestions, will follow those for sure, will check out Robocopy more, and backup files as best i can, and do some Cloud backups later on.. I lost files back in 2005-2006 due to massive infection, so trying to make sure i attempt to backup as best i possibly can
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  5. Posts : 1,223
    W10-Pro 22H2
       #15

    idgat said:
    No. Not the best way. If you move (relocate) the user system folders (whether with/out contents), the ​image restore of the OS/system drive will fail, because those folders are an integral part of the Windows installation
    I don't think so: I have relocated my user folders, and just done a MR restore to an old image (to sort out iTunes), then a restore back to this morning's build - it restored perfectly (AFAICT). You would get problems if you:
    1. moved the folders (and data) off the system drive, then
    2. created an image of just the system drive (#1) in that state (so no user data would be saved), then
    3. re-located the folders (and data) back to their original position, and finally
    4. restored image #1 - you would then have lost your user data.

    You really have to try quite hard to mess it up!
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  6. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Well Think gonna opt for Desktop Clean Install soon and hopefully restores performance of Macirum Reflect backups, 7 Hours for a Differential backup of Game SSD Is insane to me, as hasn't been that much changes on the Game SSD drive, besides a few game updates, Yet it say gonna take 7 hours

    Even Took over night 3 hours for the M.2 Nvme SSD, and strictly only had mainly Windows On it, Few small programs


    When i do clean install should i install any of the Updates from Gigabyte motherboard site
    Gigabyte B460M-DS3H Rev 1.0
    or should i let Windows update install all the Intel chipset drivers and such

    was gonna wait til Windows 11 final for the clean install, but might do it sooner, and see if backups a bit quicker, but if not then i give up i guess
    Last edited by AMDMan2016; 09 Jul 2021 at 12:46.
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  7. Posts : 1,524
    Win10 Pro
       #17

    AMDMan2016 said:
    Well Think gonna opt for Desktop Clean Install soon and hopefully restores performance of Macirum Reflect backups, 7 Hours for a Differential backup of Game SSD Is insane to me, as hasn't been that much changes on the Game SSD drive, besides a few game updates, Yet it say gonna take 7 hours

    Even Took over night 3 hours for the M.2 Nvme SSD, and strictly only had mainly Windows On it, Few small programs


    When i do clean install should i install any of the Updates from Gigabyte motherboard site
    Gigabyte B460M-DS3H Rev 1.0
    or should i let Windows update install all the Intel chipset drivers and such

    was gonna wait til Windows 11 final for the clean install, but might do it sooner, and see if backups a bit quicker, but if not then i give up i guess
    Are you backing up to a NAS that’s setup as RAID5? Do you have a gigabit network? I’ve found that these two items can have a dramatic Impact on backup times. I have two NAS units on my home network. One is RAID 5 and the other is RAID 10. The RAID 5 takes twice as long to backup because in RAID 5 the data is written to the disks as many as 4 time thereby adding lots of write time.
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  8. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Backing up to Standard Hard Drive in External Enclosure, USB 3.1 Enclosure, but should be i would think compatible with USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports on my Desktop here, Do have a secondary enclosure to try with the drive that is USB 3.0, though already tried it once, and it was still very slow

    Drive backing up to inside the external is Seagate 8TB SMR ST8000DM004

    Can swap internal 4TB WD Black Drive with WD Black 1TB for Media storage, and such, and just backup to the 4TB CMR drive if it makes any difference.

    If nothing else, i'll just continue gathering drives, backing up what files i need, and proceed with clean system install in the coming day, and hopefully after that works a bit better
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