System Restore issue

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  1. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
       #1

    System Restore issue


    Win 10 Pro 20H2

    I'll try to be brief.

    While trying to resolve an issue with Google Chrome I thought I may have caused and getting no where with my efforts to fix it I resorted to system restore, this solution has very rarely failed for me in all incarnations of Windows I've used.

    I can create a system restore point, I can't restore from it, my first attempt at restore I received an error message 0x 800 70005, then 2nd/3rd attempt, see image below.

    I read the tutorials here and the many attempts at fixing this issue, undertook and applied some myself to no avail.

    I did sfc /scannow, it found some violations and fixed them but didn't fix the restore issue.

    I thought sod it ! I will do an Image recovery taken just after I had updated OS to 20H2, about a month ago and at around the same time had created a new system restore point, deleting first any old ones.

    The image recovery was successful, ( thank you dalchina and others ).

    The good thing, the issue I was having with Chrome, disappeared, unfortunately the issue with SR did not.

    Before attempting restore again I disable my AV and Malware Bytes free but restore failed.

    Restore goes in to this constant " restore and initializing" loop and then a slight change, " restoring registry " and nothing, I have to do a cold boot to return to desktop, ( on/off button has had a real workout ).

    Every time I have attempted a fix I have disabled AV and MW.

    A couple of applied solutions was to set to auto in the registry some Dwords services, Windows Shadow copy?? and something else, I've forgotten, I also had to look for "System Restore Service" but can't find that,---maybe that's the issue?

    I understand through reading, prevailing reasoning suggests SR is not the way to go, is unreliable and not really necessary as there are other means/solutions to restore a system.

    I understand that but my reasoning is anything in your armament when the crap hits the fan/windows is a good thing and SR working within your Windows environment is a useful tool and convenient.

    I would very much like to get SR working again.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    System Restore issue-system-restore.jpg
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  2. Posts : 42,982
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Unfortunately many here deem System Restore to be fragile and easily broken. When it works, it's great- but then it goes into sulk mode when restoring for some weeks or months.

    That's been my experience (there's a huge thread with mine as the first post). Some months later- perhaps after some updates or an upgrade- it started working again.

    You might be lucky if you try deleting all restore points and an in-place upgrade repair for example, but that's a stab in the dark.

    More specifically you can try, given your error number 0x80070005
    - disabling/uninstalling any 3rd party AV - example Malwarebytes:
    System restore failed error 0x80070005

    - repairing VSS (Macrium Reflect has a useful VSS repair utility)

    E.g.
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...0-99d0b66d9b19
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  3. Posts : 2,550
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #3

    Did you try system restore from within safe mode? This often works when SR fails from within normal Windows.
    I agree with dalchina that SR is buggy. Imaging software is much better so I would recommend sticking with that.
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  4. Posts : 42,982
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    Disk imaging is great, but System Restore is a valuable complement-
    a. restoring (when it works) is quicker
    b. user data is unaffected.
    I regard them as complementary.
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  5. Posts : 2,550
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
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  6. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thanks to everyone who replied.

    Curious, I checked 3 other PCs yesterday, all running Win 10 pro/home, 20H2 installed.

    All of them, including mine, has the " System Restore Service " missing from their registries.

    I am wondering if it might be to do with installing 20H2?
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  7. Posts : 42,982
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    Sorry, what system restore service?
    Perhaps you could post a screenshot of the registry keys which concern you.
    There is no "System Restore" service, only an executable called rstrui.exe. System Restore is actually a component of the Volume Shadow Copy (VSS) service.

    See my comments above about the latter. Have you tried that?

    Note- you may need to enable System Restore after upgrading. I have 20H2:
    System Restore issue-1.png

    System Restore issue-1.png

    System Restore issue-2.png

    Tutorials on System Restore are available.

    What do you have here?
    System Restore issue-1.png
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  8. Posts : 165
    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #8

    dalchina said:
    Sorry, what system restore service?
    Perhaps you could post a screenshot of the registry keys which concern you.
    Let my find what I read and I will link to it but it definitely mentioned " system restore service " and how to enable it and or create it in the registry.
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  9. Posts : 7,607
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #9

    Do you mean "Turn on system protection"?

    WMIC /Namespace:\\root\default Path SystemRestore Call Enable "%SystemDrive%"
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  10. Posts : 18,044
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit v1909 - Build 18363 Custom ISO Install
       #10

    Hello @Jaylob4,

    Jaylob4 said:
    Let my find what I read and I will link to it but it definitely mentioned " system restore service " and how to enable it and or create it in the registry.

    Are you talking about this? . . .

    > Enable System Restore in Windows 10
    > How to Enable or Disable System Restore in Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 10

    I hope this helps.
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