USB stick for System Image

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  1. Posts : 83
    Windows 10 19041.985
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       #11

    ignatzatsonic said:
    They are just a dab of glue away from that at any moment.
    LOL! Well, I hardly ever unplug mine, they are in a switchable hub. So they don't get much mechanical stress and they are distanced from the laptop's USB port. My one MR7 System Image is on an old USB HDD, so I want a backup to my backup.
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       #12

    Bob1212 said:
    Wow, that is a big drop in speed.

    Maybe it also just eventually just stops functioning. Does it still work at all after the stress test?

    No. I just received it the other day, and only ran the two speed tests, and today, tried to create a backup with the USB stick as a destination.

    It definitely still works...


    USB stick for System Image-image1.png



    Using the stick as a destination for Macrium Reflect backup works fine.
    Apparently, the problem was a hiccough in the Windows Volume Shadow Copy ... thingy. (thingy = highly technical term).



    /edit

    @Bob1212
    As for the drop in speed... I had read about that in the reviews for THIS particular stick. A number of them said, that when copying files or w/e, bigger than 2GB, to the stick... the transfer speed will drop some.

    That's why I originally ran the speed test twice. Once at default settings, then again with it set at 16GB.
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  3. Posts : 83
    Windows 10 19041.985
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       #13

    Just mulling: maybe writing causes much more heat than reading. You are putting energy onto the stick instead of merely sensing.
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       #14

    Bob1212 said:
    Just mulling: maybe writing causes much more heat than reading. You are putting energy onto the stick instead of merely sensing.
    Yeah, I think that's right.

    Similarly, the "TBW" ratings that you see for drives are decidedly not "TBR"......reads have virtually no impact on expected life as far as I know and aren't even a consideration to the average user..
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       #15

    Bob1212 said:
    Just mulling: maybe writing causes much more heat than reading. You are putting energy onto the stick instead of merely sensing.


    I would think that is true. However... I didn't notice the temp going up at all, when making the backup to the USB stick.
    Like I said, my backups are only 16GB in size.
    With a 250GB backup, your mileage may vary.
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  6. Posts : 5,816
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       #16

    Bob1212 said:
    Let me ask: have you done a 220GB+ transfer?

    I was looking at this model, have you used this mini or similar? Amazon.com
    (melt photos review: "Don't buy this product, it runs hot to the point of melting, I had to cut it out of my computer.")

    I do have a 32GB Sandisk plugged into my hub, I'd never noticed warmth but it is the old fashioned model.
    Admittedly, I don't use flash drives that large. In fact I don't even have a flash drive larger than 64GB. And I wouldn't use them to move that much data, thus why I have a 1TB external SSD drive as linked in my earlier post.

    In answering your question, I move large amounts of data all the time. In fact I just moved 457gig of files from one internal drive to another in one move. And I typically move between 30-300gig of files on a regular basis when moving files to my NAS.

    But yes, moving that much data would heat up any drive. If you intend to move large amounts of data like that you might consider something more robust for the job like a small external drive which would be less than a $100 bucks. You can even get a 500GB Samsung T7 SSD drive for $80 bucks.

    Yeah, the 256gig drive you linked would work, but it is going to get hot moving that much data. That's not just SanDisk.

    Good luck.
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  7. Posts : 83
    Windows 10 19041.985
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       #17

    Just to see what happens, I just now put 5GB onto a stick. It was a full size plastic case stick, and the case was not at all warm. But I pulled it out of the hub's port and yes, the metal plug end was warm to the touch. FWIW.

    [Edit: and 2.0]
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  8. Posts : 17,725
    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1706 (x64) [21H2]
       #18

    Bob1212 said:
    Just to see what happens, I just now put 5GB onto a stick. It was a full size plastic case stick, and the case was not at all warm. But I pulled it out of the hub's port and yes, the metal plug end was warm to the touch. FWIW.

    [Edit: and 2.0]



    My stick stayed at 33C through the whole 16GB backup. As for speeds, here's the data...


    USB stick for System Image-image3.png





    Just copied the backup I made on the USB stick to my desktop (860 EVO).
    Speed held steady at 375 MB/s.

    HOWEVER... I then copied the same 16GB backup file from the desktop TO the USB stick... and...
    ...the horror, the horror.


    USB stick for System Image-image1.png


    So it seems that backing up to the stick is fairly speedy, but just moving large files to the stick is... SLOW.
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  9. Posts : 83
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       #19

    Conclusion: nothing is simple. Ever :)
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  10. Posts : 2,487
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       #20

    I just reviewed a bunch of Excel and Word docs I have regarding transfer speeds to various drives, looking for any info I made note of regarding temps during LARGE transfers.

    All I can find is that copying over 300 GB from an internal SSD to an enclosure containing an M.2 2280 500 GB WD Blue NVMe drive resulted in peak temps in the mid 50s C in an 80 degree F room.
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