which is better , regular schedule backups or backup with system image

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  1. Posts : 17
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    which is better , regular schedule backups or backup with system image


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  2. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    Most here would tell you to use something OTHER THAN the built-in Windows program.

    It's no longer under development by Microsoft.

    What do you want to back up?

    Windows and installed applications?

    Everything on a certain drive?

    Everything on all drives?

    Everything on a certain partition?

    Just personal data, like pictures, video, recipes, music?

    Something else?

    More info needed, but you should certainly back up something.
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  3. Posts : 17
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    Thread Starter
       #3

    backup everything , i looked into cloning but its over my head - system image seems like its cloning everything , but backup has a tick box to include system image

    thanks
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  4. Paul Black's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro 64-bit v1909 - Build 18363 Custom ISO Install
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    Hello @icco,

    As ignatzatsonic has stated, use something like Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper Standard because . . .


    Windows Built-In Imaging:

    DOWNSIDE:

    It is common knowledge that most of the time you CAN'T trust ANY of the MS built-in Backup or Image facilities because they just DON'T work. The System Imaging facility is a deprecated feature which is NO longer being developed or updated [ it used the same executables in every version of W10 ]. Even MS say that the built-in System Imaging facility should NOT be used . . .

    System Image Backup (SIB) Solution
    We recommend that users use full-disk backup solutions from other vendors.

    SOURCE: > Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows 10

    I hope this helps!
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  5. dalchina's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    Hi, the two are different and complement each other.

    Disk imaging: means you can recover from e.g. non-bootable situations and other O/S or data/file system corruption by restoring an image.

    Even if you need to replace the imaged disk, you can restore the new one to a previous good state.

    The downside: if you're restoring the Windows partition, all data on it is likewise restored to a previous state.

    Backup: two basic distinct approaches:
    - synchronised (continuous on-the-fly) backup
    - scheduled backup
    ...then there's maunual back of course.

    The first means you have an almost continuously current backup, but the backup destination must be on line.
    The second means you do have an option of keeping the backup destination safe off-line between backup events.

    (Whether to keep your disk image backup destination on line or not is another importan decision - in both cases off line and physically separate is safer of course).

    Thus a good strategy is
    a. Disk imaging permitting restoration and hopefully avoiding clean installs in many- but not all- cases.

    supplemented by

    b. Data backup - of a form appropriate to your use.
    Consider the data on your Windows partition - ideally minimise this - keep personal data off C: free of O/S maintenance.

    Fast changing mission critical data should be synchronised for the greatest safety.

    For greater security ensure you have off-line backups. (Think viruses, power outages, lifetime of storage media..).

    Then consider purely data partitions.
    Adopt a backup strategy appropriate to
    - the importance of the data
    - the rate of change of the data

    Here you have a choice- you could use disk imaging- or a data backup program. It becomes a matter of convenience.

    Oh, and don't forget System Restore... when it works, it's great- 'cos no changes are made to installed progs or user data. Thus a good complement to disk imaging- just don't rely on SR alone to save you.

    Note that disk image files can be mounted, and files read and copied with file explorer in the usual way.
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  6. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    "Everything".

    Hmmmm.............not really enough info.


    But I'll guess you mean everything on a certain drive so that you can restore everything on that drive if that drive were to drop dead.

    Am I right?

    If so, most here would tell you to use imaging, not cloning, using a program such as Macrium Reflect Free Edition.

    That will create 1 big file. One file. Might be 50 or 100 GB in size.

    Do you have an external drive where you can save this big file??

    You can't save it on your C drive.
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  7. Posts : 38,439
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
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  8. Posts : 17
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    thanks so much everyone

    @ignatz - yes i have a large usb drive . so bottom line the w10 backup and system image is unreliable
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  9. Posts : 38,439
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    There are free and pay backup images depending on the desired features:

    (Acronis, Aoemi, EaseUS, Macrium, Paragon, etc.)


    Macrium is widely used in Ten Forums:

    Macrium Software | It's our Business to protect your data
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect
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  10. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #10

    You have a Dell e6330 as far as I know.

    What is total occupied space that you are now using on the laptop internal drive?

    You have a USB drive.

    Is it a "flash drive" the size of a finger?

    Or is it an ordinary drive that connects by cable?

    How much free space do you have on this USB drive?
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