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  1. Posts : 494
    Win 10 Pro x64 versions
       #21

    Nothing like a trial run either. If it doesn't work as you wanted then you know that period. At that point you find another solution if there is one and if not you move on. Nothing with computers is easy. If it was everyone would be fine and no one would need help.

    the first step you have here is to get a baseline OS installed on these various machines. After that you can then customize the install. Once that is done then you can use a tool like FFU to clone it but unless you have identical machine to use it on you will have issues. This is one of the purposes of Generalization, to remove the SID signature so that an image can be moved to another system with minimal effort. I think you are looking for something simpler than that and frankly, I don't think it exists.
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  2. Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Professional
    Thread Starter
       #22

    I understand thank you very much. I live in a region where the internet is slow so being able to distribute updates is very useful.
    1) WIM images only work with GPT like FFU images?
    2) Do WIM images work on dissimilar hardware like FFU?
    Thank you so much for your wonderful support
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  3. Posts : 494
    Win 10 Pro x64 versions
       #23

    I had a bit of free time so I went looking for some solid information about all of this. I believe I have found two sources that will help you. One is a wiki that explains WIM and the tools ImageX and DISM along with some history. Two is a tutorial covering WinPE GUI, WinPE GUI-Win 10 (WIM&FFU, and WinPE GUI Create and apply WIM images, (an introduction and 3 part guide). These should take you a long way toward your goal.

    Windows Imaging Format - Wikipedia

    WinPE GUI – Windows 10 | Alex Computer Bubble Blog
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  4. Posts : 13,586
    Windows10
       #24

    The simplest solution for distributing to different hardware is to create an image backup using Macrium Reflect, and use its 'Redeploy Image to Dissimilar Hardware' option. You would need to buy a licence for the paid version as the free version does not have this option.
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  5. Posts : 11,182
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #25

    cereberus said:
    The simplest solution for distributing to different hardware is to create an image backup using Macrium Reflect, and use its 'Redeploy Image to Dissimilar Hardware' option. You would need to buy a licence for the paid version as the free version does not have this option.
    Hi there
    Windows 10 is actually quite good at getting the relevant drivers so in some cases just doing a restore image with Macrium free will work - at ist boot you might get weird graphics etc - but just do windows update or scan the device manager and update any drivers that have yellow question / exclamation marks against them.

    You will probably (although not always) have to re-activate windows though.

    If (and it's rare) boot fails then use the option "Repair windows boot" which normally fixes it.

    I haven't had the free version failing yet doing this stuff -- even restoring from INTEL Mobo to AMD one and vice versa.

    For a "Reference" Windows that can be used for deployment go through the tutorials on "Sysprepping" a reference image.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...capture-deploy

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. Posts : 13,586
    Windows10
       #26

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    Windows 10 is actually quite good at getting the relevant drivers so in some cases just doing a restore image with Macrium free will work - at ist boot you might get weird graphics etc - but just do windows update or scan the device manager and update any drivers that have yellow question / exclamation marks against them.

    You will probably (although not always) have to re-activate windows though.

    If (and it's rare) boot fails then use the option "Repair windows boot" which normally fixes it.

    I haven't had the free version failing yet doing this stuff -- even restoring from INTEL Mobo to AMD one and vice versa.

    For a "Reference" Windows that can be used for deployment go through the tutorials on "Sysprepping" a reference image.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...capture-deploy

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Sure, but I have had a few cases where W10 falls over. Main issue is UEFI/BIOS. It is reasonable to assume most devices are UEFI compatible and initial installation should be converted to UEFI where possible BEFORE installing on new device.
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  7. Posts : 2,513
    trying to install win10
       #27

    WIM images only work with GPT like FFU images?
    Wim can be used with any partition style.
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  8. Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Professional
    Thread Starter
       #28

    It says WIM is hardware independent so maybe it's a solution. Third party software has let me down. I have used Acronis in the past but without success. I would like to know if Macrium (paid version) prompts the user to enter the new hardware drivers or not. Acronis software (paid version) is also built to work all the time but in reality it doesn't.
    Now I try your 2 solutions and then I'll let you know, thank you very much!
    You are unique!

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    Today I created 3 ISOs with Macrium and I have some questions.
    1) Are these ticks correct?
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    2) I make a premise, I only use Windows 10 Pro 32/64, not other versions. I created 3 ISOs but I can't figure out when I have to use Windows PE and when Windows RE and which one is more powerful and above all what Windows PE and Windows RE are.
    ISO 1: Windows PE 10 with 32-bit support (MacriumRescue32-WinPE-10.iso)
    ISO 2: Windows PE 10 with 64-bit support (MacriumRescue64-WinPE-10.iso)
    ISO 3: Windows RE with 64-bit support (MacriumRescue64-WinRE.iso)
    What's inside all these MBs?
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    3) I use Rufus but I don't understand which ticks I have to use. I often make attempts. I would like to understand a rule.
    Thank you

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    In the trial version you cannot try the 'Redeploy Image to Dissimilar Hardware' feature. In my opinion this function has not been implemented because it does not work.
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  9. Posts : 24,649
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #29

    myMoustache said:
    In the trial version you cannot try the 'Redeploy Image to Dissimilar Hardware' feature. In my opinion this function has not been implemented because it does not work.

    No, it's not that. It works all right, but is deliberately disabled in the Trial version. That is done to 'encourage' you to buy.

    The installed software is in fact identical for the Free, Trial and Home editions. The ONLY thing that differs is the key installed by the setup program. Change the key to a paid for one and all the premium features will be unlocked, that's what I did when I upgraded my installed Free to Home.
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  10. Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Professional
    Thread Starter
       #30

    Bree said:
    No, it's not that. It works all right, but is deliberately disabled in the Trial version. That is done to 'encourage' you to buy.

    The installed software is in fact identical for the Free, Trial and Home editions. The ONLY thing that differs is the key installed by the setup program. Change the key to a paid for one and all the premium features will be unlocked, that's what I did when I upgraded my installed Free to Home.
    How often have you failed with the paid version?
    1/10, 1/100, 1/1000?
    How many PCs do you prepare in 1 year?
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