Windows 10: Be careful about Win 10 Restore Point.

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  1.    17 Aug 2015 #1

    Be careful about Win 10 Restore Point.


    After I clean installed Win 10, and then installed many programs that I normally use. And when the computer worked just the way I wanted - I decided to set the Restore Point right then.
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    Then I started (doing foolish things) fixing problems trying to get Win 10 and Win XP computers to be able to talk to one another and use one another's printers. Changed settings here and there and Services section on Win 10. Before I knew it, the computer became so slow - I could click a mouse and waited forever to see its response (next screen), the computer became unusable.

    I thought I was safe, just use the Restore Point to get back to where when the computer was working great.
    To my surprise, it took a long long time and ended up with a screen with nothing but an Icon of Recycle Bin on the top left corner - all my installed programs were gone and still is a mighty slow computer.

    I had to do another clean install and then installed all the programs I normally use again. Cost me lots of time.

    This Windows 10 Restore Point just doesn't do what I thought it would do - return to the day when everything was working fine and computer was fast. (At least that was what happened to me.)
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  2.    17 Aug 2015 #2

    It is not a substitute for a good backup, that is for sure.
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  3.    17 Aug 2015 #3

    Geneo said: View Post
    It is not a substitute for a good backup, that is for sure.
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    Thanks. I did do the Backup and set the "Restore Point" in the same evening.
    After the compute ran into problems and became unusable, I chose to use the Restore Point. I have no idea if I invoked "Backup" it would make my computer as fast as before and get all my files back. I doubt it.

    If I had done a bootable image of my hard disk (about 5 DVD disks, not too many files on the hard disk at the time), then that should help.
    (Then again, I have never done that before - making a bootable image of my hard disk on DVDs.)
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  4.    17 Aug 2015 #4

    In the Win XP era, I could set the "Restore Point", and if later the computer got into trouble, I could use that Restore Point to get the computer to return to the exactly same condition when the Restore Point was set.

    Not in Windows 10. Windows 10's "Restore Point" is a joke at this moment. (Hope Microsoft will fix this.)
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  5.    17 Aug 2015 #5

    I had the opposite effect with System Restore. I had to use it three times this past week because I ended up messing something up, but learned my lesson, and won't be playing around with system settings anymore (at least with things I really don't know much about). I would create a restore point then play around with settings and such. One of the times it was good for three days, but then the computer would become unstable to the point I could not undo what I did, so I restored back to the last point I made. All three times when I received the "System Restore completed successfully...." box after reboot I had all my stuff right where I left them as if I never proceeded after creating the point in the first place from theme settings to desktop icons/folders. Sorry to hear your bad luck, but System Restore saved me three times so far. I hope you figure out what made it not work correctly for you.
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       17 Aug 2015 #6

    System Restore Point was never a reliable source of backup, taken up disk space, often corrupted and also a resource hog. Your best bet is to create a backup image using either: AOMEI Backupper Or Macrium Reflect Free to an external HD, not to CD/DVD. The process only takes few minutes to backup/restore. In addition, it is advisable to separate the Windows OS and personal Data so you won't lose any data in case you have to restore Windows.
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  7.    18 Aug 2015 #7

    Restore point was never intended to be a backup, it doesn't backup personal files etc. There are other options for backup, you can change system just so much for it to work. Win 10 is no exception.
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  8.    18 Aug 2015 #8

    CountMike said: View Post
    Restore point was never intended to be a backup, it doesn't backup personal files etc. There are other options for backup, you can change system just so much for it to work. Win 10 is no exception.
    Very true. I only use restore as a fail safe for bad updates, or if I tweak a system setting, and it goes bad. I do back up my files to an external source. When I restore I really only look for it to undo the bad thing I did or Microsoft did.
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  9.    18 Aug 2015 #9

    Learner99 said: View Post
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    Thanks. I did do the Backup and set the "Restore Point" in the same evening.
    After the compute ran into problems and became unusable, I chose to use the Restore Point. I have no idea if I invoked "Backup" it would make my computer as fast as before and get all my files back. I doubt it.

    If I had done a bootable image of my hard disk (about 5 DVD disks, not too many files on the hard disk at the time), then that should help.
    (Then again, I have never done that before - making a bootable image of my hard disk on DVDs.)
    If you want to restore your system, you need to make an image backup of your disk, You can do this with macrium reflect free edition.
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  10.    23 Aug 2018 #10

    topgundcp said: View Post
    System Restore Point was never a reliable source of backup, taken up disk space, often corrupted and also a resource hog. Your best bet is to create a backup image using either: AOMEI Backupper Or Macrium Reflect Free to an external HD, not to CD/DVD. The process only takes few minutes to backup/restore. In addition, it is advisable to separate the Windows OS and personal Data so you won't lose any data in case you have to restore Windows.

    Howdy, Members:

    I understand this thread is quite dated... however the current relevance is Windows 10.

    I'm in full agreement with @topgundcp 's post... and I do also have Aomei Backupper available... but to date have only implemented the Win 10 System Restore Point... and need to move to Aomei.

    However... I have to acknowledge my experience... I have utilized Win 10's System Restore ~ 10x since the purchase of my PowerSpec 1510 notebook (which BTW... is a fantastic value!)... without any issues.

    Just a few minutes ago, I conducted a Google Search: win 10 create restore point reliability where I found the TenForums thread.

    In the process, I found (3) articles that are worthy of review for those interested:
    Also see:

    dalchina said: View Post
    Hi, your experience is the unfortunate exception, and it would be wrong to draw a general conclusion

    It should not be the case that you need to do a system restore like that. However I have recently seen a thread where someone finds a very particular driver keeps 'disappearing' so I suspect that you may need to protect your driver from being replaced by Windows (there is a tutorial here about that). Perhaps you have older or specific hardware- maybe Broadcom? Windows had problems with that, apparently.

    As for system restore:
    If you wish to create a restore point on a schedule, please see
    Automatically Create System Restore Point on Schedule in Windows 10 Windows 10 Backup Restore Tutorials

    There is a long thread where Brink worked through with some people who had difficulty with older ways of doing this to achieve a reliable robust way of scheduling it (I still use an old script as a scheduled task quite successfully).

    Bear in mind
    a. System Restore is not that reliable when you try restoring. It can get upset when you least want that.
    b. It's turned off by MS on each major build upgrade or an in-place upgrade repair install

    Disk imaging is much more complete and robust- and strongly recommended here- but a quite different thing of course. Should be used routinely e.g. Macrium Reflect (free).

    A quick search also offers this (not tried, and it's from 2015)
    Restore Point Creator For Windows 10


    After review the above... it's time for me to transition from Win 10 System Restore Points to AOMEI Backupper Or Macrium Reflect Free.


    Any other thoughts on this issue... or Aomei Backupper vs. Macrium Reflect Free?

    Acronis vs Macrium Reflect (incl. Aomei Backupper)
    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4237107

    AOMEI Backupper Professional (free!) versus Macrium Reflect?



    I hope this proves helpful...

    ~ Alan
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