Macrium Reflect 8 Update Discussion

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  1. Posts : 31,663
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #721

    camelia said:
    Now I have 177.67GB of Unallocated space, when I don't need not to waste HDD capacity AND only 10GB Or 20GB of Unallocated space, but I do not have idea How to.
    You should be able to use Disk Management to extend your C: partition to use some or all of the unallocated space.

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  2. Posts : 56,830
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #722

    Just because the unallocated space is there now due to it being a larger drive, I would not just jump in and extend the C:. It is quite large as is. Being a spinner (assumed), once you extend C: with the full unallocated space, you may not be able to undo that step.

    As I said before, we need to see the free space on C:
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  3. Posts : 2,557
    Windows 10 pro x64-bit
       #723

    f14tomcat said:
    Just because the unallocated space is there now due to it being a larger drive, I would not just jump in and extend the C:. It is quite large as is. Being a spinner (assumed), once you extend C: with the full unallocated space, you may not be able to undo that step.

    As I said before, we need to see the free space on C:
    Not questioning what you advanced in your statement, but just for my own knowledge why can't one undo the step to recreate the unallocated space if need be?.
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  4. Posts : 56,830
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       #724

    IronZorg89 said:
    Not questioning what you advanced in your statement, but just for my own knowledge why can't one undo the step to recreate the unallocated space if need be?.
    A spinner, HDD, may put data on sectors at the tail end or anywhere on that extension of space, and shrinking a partition on an HDD can only occur up to the last empty sector. SSDs don't seem to react that way due to methods. I'm probably not fully explaining it, but that's the gist.


    edit: I think it can be done with 3rd party tools such as MiniTool, but very time consuming. Definitely not with Disk Management under the circumstances I outlined.
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  5. Posts : 2,557
    Windows 10 pro x64-bit
       #725

    f14tomcat said:
    A spinner, HDD, may put data on sectors at the tail end or anywhere on that extension of space, and shrinking a partition on an HDD can only occur up to the last empty sector. SSDs don't seem to react that way due to methods. I'm probably not fully explaining it, but that's the gist.


    edit: I think it can be done with 3rd party tools such as MiniTool, but very time consuming. Definitely not with Disk Management under the circumstances I outlined.
    Thx TC for taking the time. The "Edit" part is kind of a relief, because third-party tools like Mini-Tool or EaseUS Partition Master can do the trick as far as I know to create an unallocated space for a new partition. I don't know for Disk Management where there could be some limitations, but I almost always use EaseUS Partion Master when dealing with shrinking or extending Volumes.
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  6. Posts : 31,663
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #726

    IronZorg89 said:
    ... I don't know for Disk Management where there could be some limitations...
    Yes, it's limitation is that Disk Management doesn't move used sectors if they're in the way, while other tools can and do. For an HDD defragmenting before attempting to shrink a partition can increase the amount DM can shrink it by.
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  7. Posts : 2,557
    Windows 10 pro x64-bit
       #727

    Bree said:
    Yes, it's limitation is that Disk Management doesn't move used sectors if they're in the way, while other tools can and do. For an HDD defragmenting before attempting to shrink a partition can increase the amount DM can shrink it by.
    Your added enlightenment is more than welcome. I didn't know that.
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  8. Posts : 56,830
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #728

    We're getting way OT, but by example, on an HDD, even after defragmentation and cleaning, if just a tiny portion is left with occupied sectors, it will be impossible to extend C:, even if there is still 170+GB unallocated. Space must be contiguous.

    illustration only.....

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  9. Posts : 318
    Windows 10 x64 bits
       #729

    f14tomcat said:
    How much of C: is Free?
    500GB TOSHIBA is an spinning disk too

    Thanks
    Camelia

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  10. Posts : 23,256
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #730

    camelia said:
    500GB TOSHIBA is an spinning disk too

    Thanks
    Camelia


    You can... right click C: and choose: Extend partition ...and add the 177 GB unallocated to C:

    Or, you can right click the 177 GB unallocated and choose: New Simple Volume ...and make a D: drive.


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    You can do either of these things....


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