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  1. Posts : 1
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    OneDrive


    If all my data is sent to the cloud on OneDrive, why do I need to "backup".
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  2. Posts : 13,960
    Windows 10 Pro X64 21H1 19043.1503
       #2

    1. Unlikely you have all your data on OneDrive, unless you have purchased extra space there. Default is only 5GB.
    2. Speed is the big drawback for me. It takes forever to upload or download a large amount of data, especially when compared to writing to or reading from a local internal or external backup drive. Instead of 30 minutes it can be days.
    3. Backup in the usual sense of the word means not only your data but also the OS so you can lose your hard drive, replace it, restore an image and be up and running in less than an hour. From OneDrive it would again take days after you first installed the OS to a new drive then started the restore from OneDrive.
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  3. Posts : 1,474
    Windows 10 Pro
       #3

    ebb124 said:
    If all my data is sent to the cloud on OneDrive, why do I need to "backup".
    "Cloud" services should never be considered "backup". Ideally suited to enable exchange between users and devices, but not as sole backup source.

    (Note : Reference to cloud services as in OneDrive (Microsoft), Drive (Google), Glacier (Amazon), et al. Does not include/mean dedicated off-site recognised backup services like CrashPlan, Backblaze, etc)

    Nothing beats a "hard copy" backup system - Macrium Reflect image for the OS/system/software drive, and SyncBackFree for users files. And even ideally, a copy kept off-site.
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  4. Posts : 7,134
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #4

    I only use cloud storage for non-sensitive files I need to share between PCs
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  5. Posts : 13,960
    Windows 10 Pro X64 21H1 19043.1503
       #5

    Carbonite is considered a Cloud based backup service.

    Personal cloud backup

    • Easy to install and configure so it runs automatically
    • Includes backup software and unlimited cloud storage service for one computer
    • Protects photos, tax forms, music and video files, and more
    • Recover files easily from any web connected device
    • Available for external hard drives and other forms of external storage
    • Excellent defense against a ransomware attack, hardware failure and laptop loss or theft

    I used it for a couple years but is was too slow and I definitely did not like paying for it so switched to additional internal SATA (2TB) drives and Macrium and am much happier.
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  6. Posts : 1,474
    Windows 10 Pro
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    Ztruker said:
    Carbonite is considered a Cloud based backup service.

    It's actually a term I detest, quite misleading to the technically uninformed and one of the classic examples where the industry/profession likes to complicate things with jargon.


    They're all (non-existent) "cloud" services, that's just a generic term that's been hijacked by the mass-marketed like OneDrive and (Google) Drive.


    The major backup systems were previously referred to simply as "off site" backup/storage, a much more self-explanatory concept.

    There is no "cloud", there never was. There's hardware at both ends.
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  7. Posts : 7,134
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
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    idgat said:
    It's actually a term I detest, quite misleading to the technically uninformed and one of the classic examples where the industry/profession likes to complicate things with jargon.


    They're all (non-existent) "cloud" services, that's just a generic term that's been hijacked by the mass-marketed like OneDrive and (Google) Drive.


    The major backup systems were previously referred to simply as "off site" backup/storage, a much more self-explanatory concept.

    There is no "cloud", there never was. There's hardware at both ends.
    Correct. Nor do we know where our data is physically stored, how it is protected and who has access to it.
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  8. Posts : 13,960
    Windows 10 Pro X64 21H1 19043.1503
       #8

    I know what a cloud is but agree with what you say. The Cloud concept has been warped into this Mythological beast that sucks data from everywhere and if you're lucky regurgitates it back to you when needed.

    It's really just a bunch of Main Frames (Rack Mounted Servers) with lots and lots of connected main frame type DASD (aka hard drives), each of which can hold a whole lot of data. Some of the Cloud offerings are actually just renting space and time on the Super Main Frames, they have no hardware of their own. The reliability of these servers is often 100% or 99.99999999....% and all data is redundantly backed up so there should be no way any of it should ever be lost other than by operator or programmer error.
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