Windows System Image backup failing

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  1. Posts : 34,985
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #11

    Perhaps it's not Windows that's broken. I believe you've still to try other approaches in post #4.

    Try not thinking about fixing Windows and approach this from a different angle.

    If System Restore works and you can create disk images, VSS is probably fine.
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  2. Posts : 159
    Win 10 Pro x64
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       #12

    No, not anymore. System restore didn't work and I reformatted the external back up SSD in case that was the hang up. So all I have is file backups.
    @dalchina You may be correct, but I didn't find the part provided anything new, and the second part I have to admit not knowingwhat to do with the results of running VssDiag, which shows a number of XML errors.
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  3. Posts : 34,985
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #13

    I'm confused (happens easily).. you said
    Even w/o visiting this forum often, I do the following:
    - create system restore points a few times daily
    and I think you mentioned you had earlier.

    Is it now the case that SR creation is failing, and if so, with what error message?
    Or do you mean creation succeeds, but restoration fails, and if so, with what error message?
    If the latter, that's a common experience normally.
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  4. Posts : 159
    Win 10 Pro x64
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Create works but restore doesn't, returning an error that it couldn't... I ran it last night, so don't recall the exact message. Now, after the repair install, there isn't anything to try to go back to. I agree that restore failures are common, although for me that's usually a sign that something is wrong. But aside from last night, I haven't had the need for quite some time.
    Last edited by highstream; 13 Jun 2020 at 01:29.
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  5. Posts : 34,985
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #15

    Assuming your SR failure message is one of the typical ones and makes no mention of VSS, assume VSS is working, and your unusual message needs fixing another way, specific to the task against which it is reported.
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  6. Posts : 7,089
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #16

    I didn't get the impression from this thread that you have a reliable system backup. I recommend using Macrium Reflect and set a schedule for automatic backups to another internal drive or external drive. Ideally you need two backups with one stored in a separate location for maximum security.
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  7. Posts : 159
    Win 10 Pro x64
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Steve C said:
    I didn't get the impression from this thread that you have a reliable system backup. I recommend using Macrium Reflect and set a schedule for automatic backups to another internal drive or external drive. Ideally you need two backups with one stored in a separate location for maximum security.
    ??? Take a look at post 9.

    I’m missing how your post helps me solve the problem at hand.
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  8. Posts : 7,089
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #18

    highstream said:
    ??? Take a look at post 9.

    I’m missing how your post helps me solve the problem at hand.
    Here is some help - ditch the deprecated builtin Windows 10 backup and use a more reliable sophisticated backup utility such as Macrium Reflect
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  9. Posts : 159
    Win 10 Pro x64
    Thread Starter
       #19

    dalchina said:
    Assuming your SR failure message is one of the typical ones and makes no mention of VSS, assume VSS is working, and your unusual message needs fixing another way, specific to the task against which it is reported.
    I don’t have a clue how to solve the reported XML errors, but I’ll run SR once again to check the error message. The only two other things I can think of are to 1) disconnect all the non system drives (5) temporarily to run the backup — I had to do that some years ago to get through an upgrade of Win 8 that kept stalling; 2) move SATA cables around so that disk numbers are optimally ordered, but I read that’s no longer necessary — and the weekly backups have never had problem with the current ordering. So my guess is #1 is the next step.

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    Steve C said:
    Here is some help - ditch the deprecated builtin Windows 10 backup and use a more reliable sophisticated backup utility such as Macrium Reflect
    It’s so unreliable that I’ve done this simple and straight forward within Windows backup method hundreds of times without failure until the day I swapped in a new non system HDD, in the process moving around what a couple of non system HDDs backed up. That is the context and subject of this thread. Right now I’m getting both VSS and SR failures that shouldn’t happen. Do you have something to offer directly related to fixing those?
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  10. Posts : 24,652
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #20

    highstream said:
    ... I’ve done the simple and straight forward backup method hundreds of times without failure until the day I swapped in a new drive. That is the subject of this thread...
    You may find that Windows is not configured with the correct parameters for the new drive. To force a reassessment of the hardware after the changes, open a command prompt and run winsat formal

    That was the solution to this thread where an SSD was changed for an HDD but windows still thought it was a SSD.

    From SSD to HDD - how to tell Windows that?

    BTW, I've tested making a system image in 2004 (19041.329) and it works successfully. Not that I use it now, I rely on Macrium these days.
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