Win10 Backup and Restore (Windows 7) Does not see my 2nd hard drive

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  1. Posts : 15
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    Win10 Backup and Restore (Windows 7) Does not see my 2nd hard drive


    So I have used the backup and restore (windows 7) from the control panel in the past to do a system image backup. I usually just use my 2nd hard drive in my PC. Oddly enough it when I go to the Hard disk option. My second hard drive does not appear on this list. I do run myself as a Standard user, but I have the same result when I login to my admin account too. I want to upgrade to 1909 but I want to make a system image first. Win10 Backup and Restore (Windows 7) Does not see my 2nd hard drive-system-image.png

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    Window 10 1803 17134.1488
    intel i7-3960x 3.30GHz
    32gb ram
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  2. Posts : 43,444
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    Hi, as has been said numerous times here, Backup and Restore (Windows 7) is deprecated and there purely for legacy reasons.

    MS itself recommends using 3rd party tools instead.

    Again and again tenforums members recommend the use of Macrium Reflect (free) + large enough external disk.

    Unlike that ancient MS feature, MR is supported, documented and updated- plenty of youtube videos too.

    Disk images are (I have to say 'in my opinion') best saved externally to your PC- you can then store the disk safely, and it is not subject to ransomware, viruses, power supply failure- or even the theft of your PC.
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  3. T J
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    I've used Backup and Restore (Windows 7) for 8-years on my 2012 Dell Desktop (Windows 1909). Currently have three 2020 images (B&RW7) on My Passport; 3/24, 4/16, & 5/25. Restored the 5/25 image on 5/31.

    Does your second hard drive show up in File Explorer? Can you drag a file to the second hard drive?

    Couldn't hurt to try starting B&RW7 differently:
    settings/update & security/backup/go to Backup and Restore (Windows 7)/create a system image/login as admin/

    I noticed that if I search for Control Panel, then click on B&RW7, that I get same as what is shown in my print screen, and does not look like yours [>Control Panel>all control panel items> B&RW7].

    I also use Norton Ghost 15.0 image software on my 2012 Dell.

    Win10 Backup and Restore (Windows 7) Does not see my 2nd hard drive-image-software.jpg
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  4. Posts : 15
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    dalchina said:
    Hi, as has been said numerous times here, Backup and Restore (Windows 7) is deprecated and there purely for legacy reasons.

    MS itself recommends using 3rd party tools instead.

    Again and again tenforums members recommend the use of Macrium Reflect (free) + large enough external disk.

    Unlike that ancient MS feature, MR is supported, documented and updated- plenty of youtube videos too.

    Disk images are (I have to say 'in my opinion') best saved externally to your PC- you can then store the disk safely, and it is not subject to ransomware, viruses, power supply failure- or even the theft of your PC.

    I thought I read something about a couple years ago. It's been awhile, since I followed anything Windows 10. It has really disappointed me and Ive become less of a fan with each update. I hope they do something new to replace it maybe something like time machine in mac os. Honestly if Mac just wasnt so expensive and all my apps could work In it I'd probably switch. I'll check out Macrium Reflect though thanks for the advice. I really rather just use whats built in and not have to use a third party app and avoid it if I can but it is what it is. I did figure out the issue though. As I plugged in my external drive, it wants to back up my 2nd hard drive as well I can select not to like in the past. Thus why it is not showing.

    Also I usually just do a core back up of my main drive on my 2nd hdd and I have a external hdd that I also back up.

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    T J said:
    I've used Backup and Restore (Windows 7) for 8-years on my 2012 Dell Desktop (Windows 1909). Currently have three 2020 images (B&RW7) on My Passport; 3/24, 4/16, & 5/25. Restored the 5/25 image on 5/31.

    Does your second hard drive show up in File Explorer? Can you drag a file to the second hard drive?

    Couldn't hurt to try starting B&RW7 differently:
    settings/update & security/backup/go to Backup and Restore (Windows 7)/create a system image/login as admin/

    I noticed that if I search for Control Panel, then click on B&RW7, that I get same as what is shown in my print screen, and does not look like yours [>Control Panel>all control panel items> B&RW7].

    I also use Norton Ghost 15.0 image software on my 2012 Dell.

    Win10 Backup and Restore (Windows 7) Does not see my 2nd hard drive-image-software.jpg
    Hey TJ,

    Nothing wrong with my 2nd hdd it is there. Its actually where I have all my games installed, run VM's off of and manually back up things. I think I figured out the issue. I plugged in my portable hdd and it showed up, when I went to run the system image it wanted to backup my 2nd as well. I thought in the past I could choose not to do that. Its been awhile and that image backup folder I have is from 2018. The only thing I could think of is perhaps I did was unplug my 2nd hdd before boot and did the image on my portable drive then made a copy to my 2nd hdd. I usually like to keep 2 copy for sure.
    Also I usually just do a core back of my C drive. This may have been the case.
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  5. Posts : 43,444
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Macrium Reflect is far more flexible and reliable, and far more fully featured- and offers a boot disk with some useful utilities. As I said, even MS has said people should use 3rd party tools by companies whose business is focussed on this.

    The licensed version has some very good features (I'm told!).

    When you image Windows, you should image all its partitions- typically 4 for UEFI, 2 or 3 for MBR installations.

    If you only image C: how are you then going to restore your Windows if the disk fails? By a somewhat more arduous procedure.
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  6. Posts : 15
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    dalchina said:
    Macrium Reflect is far more flexible and reliable, and far more fully featured- and offers a boot disk with some useful utilities. As I said, even MS has said people should use 3rd party tools by companies whose business is focussed on this.

    The licensed version has some very good features (I'm told!).

    When you image Windows, you should image all its partitions- typically 4 for UEFI, 2 or 3 for MBR installations.

    If you only image C: how are you then going to restore your Windows if the disk fails? By a somewhat more arduous procedure.

    Awesome, I am definitely going to check out Macrium Reflect, if free does exactly what I need even more better. Free is always good lol. I know a lot of my co-workers have sworn by Acronis true image, I just didn't want to spend the money and the built in Microsoft always was just enough to do the trick.

    Well by c: drive I meant my main hard drive. Which is a solid state drive, the OS is installed and ran off that and pretty much everything else. My 2nd hard drive is 6TB HDD that where I have all my games installed, and mostly storage for emulator stuff, music some manual backups I do, also where I have VM's installed.

    I get more worried about just backing up the main drive (SSD) due to the fact I have seen them fail and when they do majority of the time there is no data recovery.

    My next PC build I am going to come up with a better Data back storage and recovery solution. Which that is coming up soon too.
    I got lucky this time my corsair water cooler pump went bad and took noticed quickly that I shutdown my PC and did not use it until I got my new water cooler in this week. Everything is good now. but this July, my mobo, processor, ram and power supply will hit 8 years. It's time baby this gal sure did her time.

    Thanks again dalchina
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  7. Posts : 43,444
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    - you can of course supplement disk imaging with a focussed backup program - perhaps file synching- for faster changing critical data. Depends how often you use disk imaging- noting you can mount image files and copy files from them - as backups.

    A program like Crystal Diskinfo (free) can be left running and set to alert you to degrading drive parameters set against thresholds- possible early warning.

    Scheduling daily restore points can be useful (tutorial) - great when restoring succeeds.
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  8. Posts : 15
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    dalchina said:
    - you can of course supplement disk imaging with a focussed backup program - perhaps file synching- for faster changing critical data. Depends how often you use disk imaging- noting you can mount image files and copy files from them - as backups.

    A program like Crystal Diskinfo (free) can be left running and set to alert you to degrading drive parameters set against thresholds- possible early warning.

    Scheduling daily restore points can be useful (tutorial) - great when restoring succeeds.

    Sweet that may not be a bad idea either. Thanks Again dalchina , you have definitely gave me some small projects to look into. Maybe even a mix of both
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  10. Posts : 25
    Windows 10 Pro Version 1909 (installed over Windows 7 Pro
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    Happy that I upgraded to Window10 (from Windows 7) and all is working great! I also elected not to back up with Macrium software. However, I use the Backup and Restore feature (might still be a Windows 7 version). When scheduled for a weekly backup, it fails to see my external hard drive. I then have to disconnect the external hard drive and connect again (clicking on "This PC Icon" it will then show the external hard drive). Then the backup is successful (either from a scheduled backup time or if I click on Backup now). Any reasons for this ?

    Second, when I power off my PC, my external hard drive continues to blink, meaning it is being used?

    BTW, at this point in time I have not needed to use the "restore backup of files" from previous backup dates.

    A quick comment or two will be helpful. Thanks.

    Sy S
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