System Restore is suddenly disabled - how do I enable it?

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  1. Posts : 42,922
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       #51

    Great- indeed the clue is there in the sequence in your very first post.

    What's the program/filter to be avoided?

    You will also have significant problems if you then try to use disk imaging (as is so strongly recommended by members). E.g. Macrium Reflect (free).

    You would have to use the program's boot disk.
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  2. Posts : 223
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       #52

    dalchina said:
    Great- indeed the clue is there in the sequence in your very first post.
    Isn't hindsight wonderful! Never occurred to me that they would do anything like this.
    dalchina said:
    What's the program/filter to be avoided?
    It's called Techloq, and is actually a very good filter. I just don't think they went about this in a very sensible way. Anyone tech-savvy enough to be able to do a system restore would be able to take a disk image as well, and that would provide a much more robust way of avoiding the filter, as when they copied the current image back on to the disk, you wouldn't be able to detect what had happened. Even if the system restore idea worked (which I doubt, as I'm not sure you could revert back to the latest restore point), you'd still have your browsing history to sort out.
    dalchina said:
    You will also have significant problems if you then try to use disk imaging (as is so strongly recommended by members). E.g. Macrium Reflect (free).

    You would have to use the program's boot disk.
    As it happens, I have set that up already, but what bothers me is that something like Macrium is only able to replace your entire disk with a previous image. System restore just puts the system back to where it was, leaving all your data and settings alone. That's why it's so useful.

    Ho hum, you live and learn. Thanks again, I really appreciate all the time you (and everyone else) spent helping me.
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  3. Posts : 42,922
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #53

    Absolutely true- no claim to equivalence there.

    You could...
    - have two disk imaging sequences- one periodic, to media stored offline, and another more frequently scheduled to online media
    - run disk imaging peridocally, and have a separate data backup using a different program, run more frequently- e.g. synchronised backup.
    - use Rollback RX (free is good, but abandonware now- commercial otherwise) - nearer to System Restore
    - and as MS disabled Regback (automatic registry backup) at the end of 1709, you could re-enable that (tutorial) or use a 3rd party reg. backup prog

    Personally I wouldn't want something on my PC that interfered with the O/S like that.
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  4. Posts : 223
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
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       #54

    dalchina said:
    Personally I wouldn't want something on my PC that interfered with the O/S like that.
    Well, had they been unfront about it before installing, I might have considered it, but to do this without telling me is not good.

    It's also a complete waste of time. If I were to revert to a previous restore point, I couldn't come back to today's anyway, as today's restore point wouldn't exist anymore, so they are trying to avoid something that probably couldn't happen.
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  5. Posts : 68,843
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #55

    Yossu said:
    I found the culprit. I mentioned that I installed a major piece of software last Monday, well that was an internet filter, and it seems that this aggressively disables (and keeps re-disabling) system restore in a rather half-baked attempt to prevent anyone from uninstalling it.

    I have little confidence in getting this changed, so I guess I'm faced with the choice of living without system restore, or finding another filter.

    Anyway, I hope this helps, as if anyone else comes up with a similar problem, it would be worth checking if anything they installed recently behaved in the same manner.

    Thanks again to everyone who helped. if nothing else, I satisfied myself that my system is running well, as all of those tests that @dalchina suggested came back clean.
    Great news on finding the culprit. Thank you for posting back with the details.

    If wanted, you could try doing a repair install of Windows 10 to see if that may be able to fix System Restore.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade

    However, as dalchina posted, you would be much better off keeping updated system images using something like Macrium Reflect.

    System Restore with created restore points may be fine for a quick undo of something, but it's just not as reliable as a good system image.
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  6. Posts : 223
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #56

    @Brink

    It's not a case of fixing System Restore, they are actively monitoring it, and if anything enables it, they immediately disable it, so a repair install wouldn't help, as as soon as it re-enabled restore, Techloq would disable it.

    As mentioned, I use Macrium to do nightly disk images anyway, I just like restore, as it's a good quick fix for something like a driver update that failed. Using Macrium requires copying all my user data and settings onto another drive, restoring with Macrium, then copying my data back. System restore avoids the need for the data copying.

    Thanks again.
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  7. Posts : 68,843
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #57

    I'd be tempted to just clean install then to wipe all traces of it.
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  8. Posts : 223
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #58

    Brink said:
    I'd be tempted to just clean install then to wipe all traces of it.
    I don't need to reinstall Windows, I have my disk image from before I installed it, so can go back to that.

    The problem is that I want the filter. It's a case of deciding if I want it enough to put up with them disabling system restore, or if I look for another one and try to find out in advance if they do any dumb tricks like this.

    Thanks again.

    - - - Updated - - -

    In all fairness to Techloq, as soon as I mentioned wanting System Restore, they said I should send them my TeamViewer details and they will re-enable it. It seems like their default position is to disable it, but re-enable for anyone who requires/wants it.

    So, I'm happy now (well, I will be when they actually do it. Still waiting).
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  9. Posts : 6,826
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #59

    Yossu said:
    As it happens, I have set that up already, but what bothers me is that something like Macrium is only able to replace your entire disk with a previous image. System restore just puts the system back to where it was, leaving all your data and settings alone. That's why it's so useful.
    I usually image the current system before restoring a backup image. Then once the backup is complete I mount the system image made beforehand and restore all missing personal data from personal directories using:

    TSR Copy Changed Files Software - Free software for logging changed and modified files. - free.
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  10. Posts : 4,559
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       #60

    dalchina said:
    Personally I wouldn't want something on my PC that interfered with the O/S like that.
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