System Restore is suddenly disabled - how do I enable it?

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  1. dalchina's Avatar
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       #41

    I noticed a button to create a restore point. Out of curiosity, I clicked it, and it created one. Well, I don't know for a fact, as I have no way of confirming this
    Interesting... remember we restarted VSS... Try this:
    Win key + r, rstrui.exe
    - another way of launching SR.

    Another way of viewing them from an admin command prompt (note the date and time are shown):
    System Restore is suddenly disabled - how do I enable it?-1.png
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  2. Posts : 198
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #42

    Wow, what a great reply! Thanks for all that.

    I'll have to wait until the end of the day to do that much, so won't be able to post back until later.

    Thanks very much for all the help

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    dalchina said:
    Interesting... remember we restarted VSS...
    Yup, but I still couldn't use the system window, which what I found odd.

    dalchina said:
    Try this:
    Win key + r, rstrui.exe
    - another way of launching SR.
    Nope, pops up a message saying that system restore has been disabled. This is what I got when I clicked that other button in the tweaking.com util.
    dalchina said:
    Another way of viewing them from an admin command prompt (note the date and time are shown):
    Thanks, interesting.

    One thing that bothered me is that when I created the restore point manually on Monday, there were only two restore points shown. Given that Windows has updated itself numerous times, and I have installed a fair bit of software, I would have expected more restore points. Thought it odd at the time, but didn't go any further with the thought.

    Anything significant in that? Thanks again
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  3. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 24,270
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #43

    Nope. The creation of restore points seems somewhat erratic. I have one scheduled to be created daily.

    The command prompt option should allow you to see whether Tweaking.com's tool created one.
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  4. Posts : 32,448
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #44

    These were the recent events related to Volume Shadow Copies:

    Code:
    Event[2098]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: Volsnap
      Date: 2020-05-03T14:57:12.967
      Event ID: 25
      Task: N/A
      Level: Error
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Classic
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: Bessie
      Description: 
    The shadow copies of volume E: were deleted because the shadow copy storage could not grow in time.  Consider reducing the IO load on the system or choose a shadow copy storage volume that is not being shadow copied.
    
    
    
    Event[2550]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: Volsnap
      Date: 2020-05-10T17:25:58.493
      Event ID: 95
      Task: N/A
      Level: Information
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Classic
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: Bessie
      Description: 
    The oldest shadow copy of volume C: was deleted to allow shadow copies created afterward and marked for delete to be deleted.
    
    
    Event[3066]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: Volsnap
      Date: 2020-05-13T15:25:31.725
      Event ID: 95
      Task: N/A
      Level: Information
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Classic
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: Bessie
      Description: 
    The oldest shadow copy of volume C: was deleted to allow shadow copies created afterward and marked for delete to be deleted.
    
    
    
    Event[3401]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: Volsnap
      Date: 2020-05-17T23:59:41.599
      Event ID: 95
      Task: N/A
      Level: Information
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Classic
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: Bessie
      Description: 
    The oldest shadow copy of volume C: was deleted to allow shadow copies created afterward and marked for delete to be deleted.


    The computer has Macrium and Carbonite.

    Some end users in Ten Forums turn off system restore when regularly making backup images to increase drive free space.
    If there is a lot of free space then it's belt and suspenders.
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  5. Posts : 198
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #45

    dalchina said:
    Nope. The creation of restore points seems somewhat erratic. I have one scheduled to be created daily.

    The command prompt option should allow you to see whether Tweaking.com's tool created one.
    Duh, that was the whole point wasn't it?

    No, it looks like it didn't create one. Funny that it didn't give an error though.

    Oh well, I guess my next step is to go through the list that @zbook suggested, see if any of that helps.

    Thanks again.

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    zbook said:
    These were the recent events related to Volume Shadow Copies:
    Not sure exactly what all that means, but as you can see from the screenshot in my very first post, I only have system restore enabled for drive C. Drive D is an internal data drive for large files, like music and pictures. E is my external backup drive.

    zbook said:
    The computer has Macrium and Carbonite.
    Yup, I do nightly disk images with Macrium and ongoing cloud backup with Carbonite.
    zbook said:
    Some end users in Ten Forums turn off system restore when regularly making backup images to increase drive free space.
    If there is a lot of free space then it's belt and suspenders.
    Well, I'm in the UK, so we say belt and braces, but I guess it's the same thing! I prefer to be safe, which is why I use both Macrium and Carbonite.

    I'm not worried about drive space, as I have plenty on C and E (the data on D is only covered by Carbonite).

    I was wanting to use system restore, as my understanding is that if I revert to an earlier restore point, my data is not affected. If I use Macrium to restore, it reverts my entire C drive, which includes my critical data. I then have to pull back recently changed files from Macrium, which makes the whole process slower.

    Thanks
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  6. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 24,270
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #46

    You've still the option of an in-place upgrade repair install.

    Note that if a 3rd party program is causing this, that will still occur.
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  7. Posts : 32,448
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #47

    The shadow copy info was to follow up on dalchina's recent post.
    There were drive file system problems in the recovery volume.
    It's unclear now how that may have impacted the creation of restore points.
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  8. Posts : 198
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #48

    zbook said:
    The shadow copy info was to follow up on dalchina's recent post.
    There were drive file system problems in the recovery volume.
    It's unclear now how that may have impacted the creation of restore points.
    Pardon me for asking yet more dumb questions, but this stuff is not my field of expertise (as you've no doubt guessed by now!).

    I'm puzzled by this first message...

    The shadow copies of volume E: were deleted because the shadow copy storage could not grow in time. Consider reducing the IO load on the system or choose a shadow copy storage volume that is not being shadow copied

    Drive E is my external backup drive, it's not supposed to be making copies of it is it?

    I thought it was only supposed to be making copies of drive C, which is the only one marked for system restore.

    The other messages in there (The oldest shadow copy of volume C: was deleted...) don't seem to be errors. Aren't they just information about freeing up disk space? Not sure why it needs to do that though, as drive C has 717Gb free, which I would have thought would have been enough!

    What did I miss?

    Thanks again.

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    dalchina said:
    You've still the option of an in-place upgrade repair install.
    Yup, was wondering about trying that before the 13 points mentioned earlier, as it's likely to be quicker.
    dalchina said:
    Note that if a 3rd party program is causing this, that will still occur.
    Well, given that I created a restore point on Monday, and I've only installed one thing since then, it did make me wonder as well. I have sent a question to them asking if their software could be involved, so we'll see what they say. I imagine the answer will be a flat no, but you never know.

    Thanks again.
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  9. Posts : 32,448
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #49

    Continuing with the steps in post #40:

    In the left lower corner search type: system or system control > open system control panel > on the left pane click advanced system settings

    a) > on the advanced tab under startup and recovery > click settings > post an image of the startup and recovery window into the thread

    b) > on the advanced tab under performance > click on settings > on the performance options window > click on the advanced tab > under virtual memory > click on change > post an image of the virtual memory window into the thread
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  10. Posts : 198
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #50

    Found the issue


    I found the culprit. I mentioned that I installed a major piece of software last Monday, well that was an internet filter, and it seems that this aggressively disables (and keeps re-disabling) system restore in a rather half-baked attempt to prevent anyone from uninstalling it.

    I have little confidence in getting this changed, so I guess I'm faced with the choice of living without system restore, or finding another filter.

    Anyway, I hope this helps, as if anyone else comes up with a similar problem, it would be worth checking if anything they installed recently behaved in the same manner.

    Thanks again to everyone who helped. if nothing else, I satisfied myself that my system is running well, as all of those tests that @dalchina suggested came back clean.
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