Backup and Restore completely fails to start

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  1. Posts : 40
    10 (home edition)
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    Backup and Restore completely fails to start


    It used to work but then something happened on my Windows 10 machine and now I can't backup at all (don't have external so I relied on this windows-7 leftover method to backup on an internal separate drive)

    My control panel looks like this now:

    Edit I can't upload an image? I wanted to display the pop up I get which says:

    The backup application could not start due to an internal error:

    Server execution failed (0x80080005).
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  2. Posts : 42,991
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, Backup and Restore (Windows 7) is a deprecated feature and should not be relied on. It's unlikely you'll get much support for this. MS recommends people use 3rd party tools - again and again tenforums members recommend e.g. Macrium Reflect.

    Backing up exclusively to an internal drive is a really bad idea- what if your PSU caused major failure of components: a virus affected all your drives: your PC was subject to fire/theft/flood....

    You haven't stated your Windows build as would have been clearly prompted by the forum when you wrote your post.

    If you wish, you could try an in-place upgrade repair install which keeps all progs and data and most settings. Tutorial available: you need an iso for your current build (whatever that may be).
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  3. Posts : 40
    10 (home edition)
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Is it beign depreciated? Then I have to look for alternatives I guess?

    But then third party means buy/pay subscription. So I'm not sure that's what I'm looking for.

    Sorry I didn't notice any Windows build info I had to give It's Windows 10 Home edition. Version 1909
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  4. Posts : 42,991
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    MR has a perfectly capable free edition.

    Aomei offers another.

    deprecated rather than depreciated.

    Version number: This is what you see when creating a new thread:
    Backup and Restore completely fails to start-1.png
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  5. Posts : 40
    10 (home edition)
    Thread Starter
       #5

    You have convinced me to consider backing up on an external drive.

    In that case it a USB drive OK (sufficient)? Last time I used a USB it didn't have a lot of space and I simply dunno how much minimum space the inbuilt Windows-10 backup demands on this external drive.
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  6. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #6

    If you use Macrium and use its default compression, the required space would be roughly half of the sum of the occupied space on whatever partitions you choose to include in the image file.

    If you had a 500 gb drive, with 200 occupied, the image file would be circa 100 gb.

    A USB stick would work, but they have major shortcomings----slow, flimsy, easily lost, etc.

    A standard external hard drive connected by USB cable is fine and a standard choice.

    I have no idea how much space Windows Backup and Restore takes.
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  7. Posts : 42,991
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    Hi, disk imaging to an external medium is an excellent start to securing your data, Windows, and letting you recover from theft, unbootable PC, viruses, mistakes...

    As ignatzatsonic says, that's a good estimate for the 'base' image - the first image you create. After that, the next one can be smaller being differential (difference from the base image) or (paid MR or free Aomei) incremental.

    A backup set of images (e.g. base + several differentials) can be managed by MR for you (it prompts you to create the backup job specs). So if you had 1 base image and 5 differentals for Windows, once you have all those you have 6 dates to which you could restore Windows (or whatever partitions you have imaged).

    Thus you might double that storage allowance to include the differentials, say.

    Remember, that's derived from the used space imaged.
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  8. Posts : 40
    10 (home edition)
    Thread Starter
       #8

    My initial plan was to backup my C drive in the same place where the windows-7 used to do its back up: an E drive on the same computer. Now this used to be sufficiant even tho my C drive is larger (double the size) of the E drive, the C was wasn't full (used size varied from time to time due to videos and music that I load and remove constantly) so whatever I had there used to be compressed and backed up to E drive and written over constantly (by the windows 7 backup software). That's basically what I want now on a short term basis because right now I have no backup and have no external drive either. So even while I intend to get that external drive, I still want a local backup now.

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    ignatzatsonic said:
    If you use Macrium and use its default compression, the required space would be roughly half of the sum of the occupied space on whatever partitions you choose to include in the image file.
    This is good.

    Currently, my free E drive is entirely bigger than my occupied portion of C... altho in the past the occupied/used-C had been larger than the total E but not too large to not allow at least one backup copy.
    Last edited by jerriy; 21 Apr 2020 at 13:32.
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  9. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #9

    I assume this E drive is internal, but a totally separate drive----not just a different partition on the same drive as Windows.

    If I understand you, your personal data is also on the C partition.

    I assume you want to back up EVERYTHING, both personal files and Windows and installed applications.

    Macrium can do that. It is probably the preferred tool here to back up Windows and installed applications. It will include personal data as well (if so instructed), but there are better ways to back up personal data.

    You can do it in maybe a dozen mouse clicks using Macrium defaults. It will create one big file with an .mrimg extension.

    You'd also need to make a bootable USB "recovery" media on a USB stick so you can start your PC if your primary internal (C) drive drops dead. A 1 GB USB stick is big enough, or 4, or 8.
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  10. Posts : 40
    10 (home edition)
    Thread Starter
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    I assume this E drive is internal, but a totally separate drive----not just a different partition on the same drive as Windows.

    If I understand you, your personal data is also on the C partition.

    I assume you want to back up EVERYTHING, both personal files and Windows and installed applications.

    Macrium can do that. It is probably the preferred tool here to back up Windows and installed applications. It will include personal data as well (if so instructed), but there are better ways to back up personal data.

    You can do it in maybe a dozen mouse clicks using Macrium defaults. It will create one big file with an .mrimg extension.

    You'd also need to make a bootable USB "recovery" media on a USB stick so you can start your PC if your primary internal (C) drive drops dead. A 1 GB USB stick is big enough, or 4, or 8.
    Not sure what you mean by that?

    As far as I know. C:\ and E:\ are two separate partitions and drives. The E was created by me for backup purposes which means "once upon a time" that space used to be part of C.
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