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    Caledon Ken said:
    and the program clean up?

    Are you going to try the 1903 step?

    Given your machine has been failing on several attempts I think just doing the updates won't change anything. Of course that is one man's opinion.

    Have you tried the Windows Update reset?

    Reset Windows Update in Windows 10

    Given you have and can successfully restore with Macrium you can be creative.
    I think I will try the 1903 just with the ISO because when I first tried install 1909 I did it the Windows update and that failed and from what I've heard it a lot of people say I do it the Windows update sucks and takes too long. I've have tried media creation tool but that didn't do anything good either. When I did the repair install I used heidoc.

    I think I'm going to try this weekend the 1903 ISO and disconnect from the Internet and try from there. Since from what I've heard it's a lot more safer and more reliable to do ISO then through Windows update.
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  2. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Good luck.

    Keep us all posted.
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    I'm confused as to why you want top get your ISO from a third party like Hiedoc rather than direct from Microsoft. Older versions, sure. But if you wanted to install the current version:

    Download Windows 10 ISO File

    Creating the bootable USB drive using the Media Creation Tool and then running the installation afterward direct from the .exe inside has always worked well for me.
    Is that what you did when you say you tried the MCT, or did you do the "Upgrade This PC Now" option?
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    TV2 said:
    I'm confused as to why you want top get your ISO from a third party like Hiedoc rather than direct from Microsoft. Older versions, sure. But if you wanted to install the current version:

    Download Windows 10 ISO File

    Creating the bootable USB drive using the Media Creation Tool and then running the installation afterward direct from the .exe inside has always worked well for me.
    Is that what you did when you say you tried the MCT, or did you do the "Upgrade This PC Now" option?
    I'm going to be Upgrading to 1903 instead of 1909 this time.
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    Hi,
    If ms would just offer the iso's people wouldn't have to use media creation tool.
    They'd just download one
    But hiedoc offers older iso's and are from ms servers which media creation tool doesn't offer.
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  6. Bree's Avatar
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    ThrashZone said:
    If ms would just offer the iso's people wouldn't have to use media creation tool.
    They'd just download one
    But hiedoc offers older iso's and are from ms servers which media creation tool doesn't offer.
    The links Heidoc generate will download the ISO direct from Microsoft's servers. Microsoft do offer links to download an ISO directly, but for the general public those links are only seen if you visit the MS download page with a non-Windows system, or use the 'user agent string' trick to make your browser appear to be a non-Windows one.

    But one problem with the direct download ISO is that they always have an install.wim in their sources folder. This is usually larger than the 4GB Fat32 file size limit. The MCT on the other hand will create an ISO containing an install.esd. MS ensure that their .esd is always smaller than 4GB so that it can be put on a bootable Fat32 usb. This ensures that the MCT makes media that is universal - bootable on Legacy BIOS systems as well as the latest UEFI systems.
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    Bree said:
    The links Heidoc generate will download the ISO direct from Microsoft's servers. Microsoft do offer links to download an ISO directly, but for the general public those links are only seen if you visit the MS download page with a non-Windows system, or use the 'user agent string' trick to make your browser appear to be a non-Windows one.

    But one problem with the direct download ISO is that they always have an install.wim in their sources folder. This is usually larger than the 4GB Fat32 file size limit. The MCT on the other hand will create an ISO containing an install.esd. MS ensure that their .esd is always smaller than 4GB so that it can be put on a bootable Fat32 usb. This ensures that the MCT makes media that is universal - bootable on Legacy BIOS systems as well as the latest UEFI systems.
    So I do notice a lot of the longtime users here swear by iso over media creation tool. I guess its by preference since I have been told its safer and more reliable as I have said before.
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    Redbatman said:
    So I do notice a lot of the longtime users here swear by iso over media creation tool. I guess its by preference since I have been told its safer and more reliable as I have said before.
    It is easier, faster and more convenient to upgrade using an ISO rather than a USB which is why many (myself included) recommend it.

    But that doesn't rule out using the MCT to make the ISO, it can make an ISO just as easily as it can make a USB. In fact, I always make an ISO with the MCT when a new version of Windows comes out. It is easy to make a bootable usb from the ISO if you need one.

    Where downloading an ISO directly has an advantage over an ISO made by the MCT is when you want to customise the install media, and advanced technique that most of us do not need. For that you'd need an ISO that contains an install.wim, not the install.esd that is in an ISO made by the MCT. For all normal purposes, the ISO made by the MCT is as good as any other.
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    So I got off work early today and decided to go and try the update with the ISO. First I tried it with just the I am so and disconnecting my ethernet cable. That failed and undid the changes and sent me back to the home screen. So then I decided to try that it again but this time with the ethernet cable connected to the internet. So far that went okay but I'm well over an hour in and it's been stuck at 92% for the past almost 40 minutes. This is exactly what happened last time when I try to update to 1909 instead. I don't know what else I can do. It's almost 5 my time I'll wait until 5:30 and see

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    Also just to be clear I have an SSD

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    sigh no good

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    The current version of setupdiag scans for approximately 60 identifiers.

    The report indicated that none were found.


    These are options:

    a) Troubleshoot
    b) Reset save files
    c) Reset remove files
    d) Clean install
    e) Custom install
    f) Use an older Windows version knowing the risks (outdated support)
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