Help with a very bad VSS issue. Cannot find answer anywhere  

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  1. Posts : 1,524
    Win10 Pro
       #11

    IIEleven11 said:
    What I don't get those is macrium is almost a TB and Acronis is like 700GB. But when I installed acronis I don't even think I saw more then one or two GB difference in my total space used. What's up with that?surely macrium isn't going to take up 900GB of space right?
    Maybe the difference is the shadow volume copies that each makes. So maybe it depends on how any times youíve used each program.
    Last edited by SoFine409; 08 Feb 2020 at 12:15.
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  2. Posts : 29,478
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #12

    IIEleven11 said:
    Seems like everyone here chooses macrium over acronis mostly. Is it worth it to pay for it or should I not?
    There is no compelling reason to buy Macrium. The Free version does everything you need to be able to back up and restore system images and there's no time limit on using it. The Premium features that 'paid-for' will unlock are useful, but not essential. I used Free for two years before buying it.

    I didn't exactly choose Macrium over Acronis. When I was looking for an alternative to Backup & Restore Macrium Reflect Free was the first I tried. I found it worked well and did everything I needed, so never bothered to test anything else.
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  3. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #13

    So im still working on the VSS, But need some Macrium help now please


    SoFine409 said:
    Several years ago I used Acronis. After several failures of Acronis to restore backups, I decided to try Macrium and I discovered that the installation of Acronis had damaged the functioning of VSS and Macrium could not utilize VSS. After much difficulty and several registry edits, I was able to restore the operation of VSS and get Macrium working. It wasnít easy. That was the last time I used Acronis. So yes, I believe that because Acronis installs several low level services that of can interfere with VSS and they can be difficult to remove. As I remember I posted a thread here about my experiences. If your interested I can find it for you.
    Do you remember how you did it? I still have not been able to fix it and ive been trying every day. Registry edits, command prompt stuff, downloading VSS fixing software. Nothing seems to work. One error just leads to another error and its like this never ending rabbit hole. The most recent error im getting is something about there being an unexpected error in the property page and this COM server one: "The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
    {2593F8B9-4EAF-457C-B68A-50F6B8EA6B54}
    and APPID
    {15C20B67-12E7-4BB6-92BB-7AFF07997402}
    to the user JAKE\Jake SID (S-1-5-21-3094615219-4287795996-3786997103-1001) from address LocalHost (Using LRPC) running in the application container Unavailable SID (Unavailable). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool."

    So ive been trying to do this enable session 0 thing, which i have absolutely no idea what it is. But i'm at my wits end. So I just installed the SSD anyways and everything went fine. I have yet to clone over my OS. I tried using macrium for a second and im a little confused about what to do

    So i got to the part where i drag and drop partitions but theyre to big, I just want my OS on my 35gb SSD and maybe a game or tow. But i have no idea what these other partitions are and which ones i need to clone and which ones can stay. Then if i go to resize them, how do i know how much to resize. If i shrink it too much do i lose files?Help with a very bad VSS issue. Cannot find answer anywhere-untitled.png

    So thats all i can fit if i have all 5 of them selected, but that cant be right If i want all of my other files on my 1tb HDD
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  4. Posts : 1,524
    Win10 Pro
       #14

    Hereís my old thread about uninstalling Acronis. Not sure it will help you Macrium fails to create a volume snapshot
    Also see post #5 in this thread VSS / System Restore Points not working
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  5. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    So i was comparing my registry and i see this, the ID is the same but im missing the Enum folderHelp with a very bad VSS issue. Cannot find answer anywhere-tempsnip.png Does anyone know what thats for and if that would be an issue?

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    So you reinstalled acronis, uninstalled macrium, then uninstalled acronis without the cleanup tool, Then finally reinstalled macrium and that got it working again?

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    Youre errors are exactly word for word Help with a very bad VSS issue. Cannot find answer anywhere-capture.pngmine
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  6. Posts : 1,524
    Win10 Pro
       #16

    Yes, that’s what I did but that’s not a guarantee. I found that the Acronis uninstaller damaged VSS. Acronis adds services that can be removed manually but as I recall they must be removed in a specific order to work. As I said before you can always just boot using a Macrium Rescue USB and run backups without using VSS at all. Some people prefer making backups in that way. I might be tempted to uninstall both Acronis and Macrium and then do a repair install but I’d backup any important data just in case. In the end you could always do a clean install as painful as that might be.
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  7. Posts : 120
    Windows 10
       #17

    I just created a thread with the identical issue. I wonder if it has to do with the latest versions. I updated my Macrium and it now has VSS options in the menu to view the Windows errors and also to run the VSSFix utility automatically from the "Other Tasks" menu. This did not help me. No matter what I do I get those errors. I am not sure about the registry fix , I would think the utility would take of that.

    Please let me know if you made any progress on this error.
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  8. Posts : 1,524
    Win10 Pro
       #18

    jmsnyc said:
    I just created a thread with the identical issue. I wonder if it has to do with the latest versions. I updated my Macrium and it now has VSS options in the menu to view the Windows errors and also to run the VSSFix utility automatically from the "Other Tasks" menu. This did not help me. No matter what I do I get those errors. I am not sure about the registry fix , I would think the utility would take of that.

    Please let me know if you made any progress on this error.
    I haven’t seen the other thread that you created so a can’t comment on comparing the two. If you are able to successfully create backups then I would ignore the VSS errors in the logs. VSS errors seen to happens in some cases and unless they result in failed images then you’re waisting your time trying to chase them down. Just my opinion.
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  9. Posts : 120
    Windows 10
       #19

    SoFine409 said:
    I havenít seen the other thread that you created so a canít comment on comparing the two. If you are able to successfully create backups then I would ignore the VSS errors in the logs. VSS errors seen to happens in some cases and unless they result in failed images then youíre waisting your time trying to chase them down. Just my opinion.
    They result in failed images. It prevents me from creating backups within Windows 10. Its not just errors, its failure. Yes , I can boot to the recovery USB but that is severely limiting with respect to features. For example you cannot do a differential backup, work with backup definition xml files etc

    I am curious if IIEleven had any success
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  10. Posts : 5,038
    Windows 10/11 Pro x64, Various Linux Builds, Networking, Storage, Cybersecurity Specialty.
       #20

    Suggestion to all -

    Macrium Software | Support

    Create a ticket, or email: support@macrium.com

    They know their product.

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