Macrium Reflect vs Acronis

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  1. Superfly's Avatar
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    Compumind said:
    This thread is now... way OT...

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    Pointless.
    Well I lost the debate per my esteemed adversary @hdmi - so I have no alternative but to go with Acronis , shall I or shall I not? hmmm .... LOL
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    SoFine409 said:
    Not entirely true. If you boot from a Macrium USB Rescue Drive the VSS isnít used because Windows isnít running.
    Of course you are correct about that. But then you lose the option of being able to specify file/folder exclusions, which is the main important reason why I use True Image. I use a separate backup strategy on a large part of the data that I keep on my primary partition, and, moving it to a different partition is not possible due to how NTFS hard links are designed to work and besides, even if it were possible to bypass this limitation inherent of the NTFS filesystem, creating an additional partition for storing this data would only subdivide the available free space on the SSD, thus creating a barrier obstacle where currently there is none. For the average user who typically doesn't know what hard links are used for, Macrium can be already sufficient. Which one is better engineered? Is it the one that has the advanced feature that the advanced user typically requires, and that takes a little extra bit of knowledge and experience to get it to function right, or is it the one that uses zero engineering for the fact it quite obviously lacks this feature? Enough said.

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    Superfly said:
    Well I lost the debate per my esteemed adversary @hdmi - so I have no alternative but to go with Acronis , shall I or shall I not? hmmm .... LOL
    The only alternative you have is what they call an alternative fact. You know, one that's based on fuzzy logic.
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  3. Superfly's Avatar
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    Just a final word on this...

    As a developer one starts with an 80/20 conceptual plan - i.e. 80% is mission critical - that, when passed on set criteria gets expanded to include the nice-to-have's - the later may not be regarded as critical even then if the majority of users do not have a problem with it - some developers will include secondary features (sometimes without due diligence) to attain marketability - the bottom line is if the the nice-to-haves are not necessary, why bother.

    Macrium Reflect is the most reliable backup app. I have used and I will recommend it.

    (PS: If I knew more about these things I would probably write my own - but why when there is nothing to improve upon?)
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       #114

    SoFine409 said:
    Not entirely true. If you boot from a Macrium USB Rescue Drive the VSS isnít used because Windows isnít running.
    In addition, then I will pretend I'm not here.

    It's possible to do an MR backup without VSS active.....................

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    "...Backup software should NEVER fail anyway !!" Well, backup/restore software can fail and certainly has failed.
    Both Macrium Reflect and ATI 20xx users can report something gone wrong with either backup or restore. I have both MR7 and ATI2016nonCloud, and Image for Windows 3x.
    Awhile back, MR7[something] failed me a few times trying to make backups -- following DSperber's advice over in forum.macrium.com, had to use Wim W10 PE instead of Wim W7 PE when creating rescue DVDs and USB sticks.
    While I cannot remember ATI2013-2015 failing, I do remember stopping with ATI2016nonCloud because of the monies that would be involved in upgrading two laptops.
    Also, backup/restore operations can fail from any number of external-to-BR-software causes, such as sudden sectors failing either in the internal HDD or in the external HDD, intermittent loose or faulty cabling, drive controller failure, etc. That is why each laptop of mine has two dedicated ext usb 1TB HDD for OS partitions and two dedicated ext usb HDDs for data partition.
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  6. hdmi's Avatar
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    Superfly said:
    Just a final word on this...

    As a developer one starts with an 80/20 conceptual plan - i.e. 80% is mission critical - that, when passed on set criteria gets expanded to include the nice-to-have's - the later may not be regarded as critical even then if the majority of users do not have a problem with it - some developers will include secondary features (sometimes without due diligence) to attain marketability - the bottom line is if the the nice-to-haves are not necessary, why bother.

    Macrium Reflect is the most reliable backup app. I have used and I will recommend it.

    (PS: If I knew more about these things I would probably write my own - but why when there is nothing to improve upon?)
    If you don't think advanced features are important enough, shouldn't you have bought a Mac? Why do you even bother with Window 10?
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  7. Superfly's Avatar
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    hdmi said:
    If you don't think advanced features are important enough, shouldn't you have bought a Mac? Why do you even bother with Window 10?
    LOL... Yup stir as you will...

    I'm an MCSD, worked in companies that had MS Competency Centres for developing (only MS products Frontend to MSSQL)... never used a Mac (or iPhone) in my life . Invite me over to your place and teach me these foreign things...
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       #118

    Lesson #1:

    They are all collectively known as iThingies

    There is no lesson #2
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  9. Superfly's Avatar
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    f14tomcat said:
    Lesson #1:

    They are all collectively known as iThingies

    There is no lesson #2
    LOL Yup... iDon'tCare about that sh!t.
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  10. hdmi's Avatar
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    f14tomcat said:
    In addition, then I will pretend I'm not here.

    It's possible to do an MR backup without VSS active.....................

    Macrium Reflect vs Acronis-2021-03-30_14h38_05.png
    Again, you'll lose the option to specify file/folder exclusions. It matters because it matters to me and others like me who don't want to wait for it to churn its way through the whole primary partition a large part of the data on which is not required to be included in the image, but, if it doesn't matter to you, then there's no arguing against that. Whenever I create an image of my primary partition, the target folder in which the image file gets created is a folder that is located onto this same primary partition. That's yet another feature that Macrium lacks.
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