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  1. Posts : 54
    Windows 10 64 Version 10.0.18363.628
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    Recovering SSD with bad blocks?


    Hello,
    I have an SSD boot drive that has some bad blocks. My full story is over at Loop: System Thread Exception Not Handled, Bad System Config Info where zBook recommended that I come over to this forum:
    zbook said:
    The files are backed up by copy and paste.
    This allows a clean install.

    A Macrium backup image allows you to restore the image when there is drive failure if you have an image before hardware failure.

    This typically takes < 1 hour and often < 30 minutes.
    In contrast copy and paste can take 12 to 36 hours depending on the size of the drive and its speed.

    The Sea Tools for Windows reported a long generic fail.
    This test is equivalent to the testing accepted by computer manufacturer's for Warranty replacement.

    The HD Tune test displayed bad blocks.

    Both HD Tune and HD Sentinel displayed problems with SMART results.
    These are used to predict drive failure.

    For Macrium questions please open a thread in https://www.tenforums.com/backup-restore/
    a) how to plan it when replacing a disk drive
    b) how to confirm the backup image has been created properly and can be used to restore the image
    c) how to restore the image
    etc.
    Bad me, I do not have a backup image of the troubled drive.

    I have watched the Macrium cloning video.

    Here is what I have tried with Macrium using of the Kyhi boot.

    Here is the view of the boot drive:
    Recovering SSD with bad blocks?-macriumchoices.png

    I tried making an image but got an immediate error.
    Recovering SSD with bad blocks?-macriumerroronimaging.png
    I could not figure out where to find the log file. No tab for logs showed up.

    I tried to do a file back up. This worked other than four files.
    Recovering SSD with bad blocks?-macriumfilecopyfinished.png

    I plan on getting a new SSD drive. I will wait until I can get some further direction from you folks.

    Thanks,
    Jeff

    Here's some more information:

    Windows 10 (ver: 10.0.18362.592)

    Motherboard:
    Asus X99-DELUXE II LGA2011-v3/ Intel X99/ DDR4/
    Quad CrossFireX & Quad SLI/ SATA3&USB3.1/
    M.2&U.2&SATA Express/ WiFi/ A&2GbE/ ATX

    Processor:
    Intel Boxed Core i7-6850K Processor (15M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz) 6 core, 12 thread. 140W TDP, 40 PCIe lanes

    Graphics Card:
    PNY Quadro K1200 Graphic Card - 4 GB GDDR5 - PCI Express 2.0 x16

    Boot Drive:
    Samsung 950 PRO Series 512 GB - PCIe NVMe - M.2 FF Internal SSD

    There are two WDC hard drives that are 4T and 6T in size.
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    Linux Mint 20.1 Win10Prox64
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    1. All Macrium log files are under C:\Program Data\Macrium and this folder is hidden. I guess the errors may be related to the fact that Macrium encountered bad blocks on the SSD.
    2. Running Macrium in WinPE environment (from KHYI's EinPESE) will not give you the option to skip the bad blocks. You'd need to install Macrium and run it online. Click on Other Tasks->edit defaults->Advanced ...Put a tick mark on ignore bad sectors.... then do a backup. This will save all your Data on the SSD. However, untill you replace the SSD, restore the image, you will have to run Windows setup again to repair all the missing files.


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  3. Posts : 54
    Windows 10 64 Version 10.0.18363.628
    Thread Starter
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    topgundcp said:
    Running Macrium in WinPE environment (from KHYI's EinPESE) will not give you the option to skip the bad blocks. You'd need to install Macrium and run it online.
    Sorry, I do not understand installing and the online part. Where do I install if I am in the WinPE environment? And online?

    Thanks,
    Jeff

    PS. Since I have to get a new SSD, are there any particular manufacturers that folks here prefer?
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  4. topgundcp's Avatar
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    Linux Mint 20.1 Win10Prox64
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    Online means while Windows is running then you can set the option as shown above.
    Offline is when you boot from WinPE.

    All SSD Brands are comparable in price, some is quite cheap but the Read/Write speed is slower. Personally, I use Samsung SSD
    Last edited by topgundcp; 26 Jan 2020 at 05:46.
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  5. Posts : 54
    Windows 10 64 Version 10.0.18363.628
    Thread Starter
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    Actually, while I was waiting for a reply, I installed the latest version of Macrium Reflect home version, 30-day free. There was no advanced edit options available under Other Tasks, only Network Config..., Keyboard Layout, and Screen Resoluton. Nevertheless, I tried backing up an image of the C drive. It was cranking away as you responded. It worked!

    Recovering SSD with bad blocks?-macriumcbackupimage.png

    It just reported that there were those bad sectors. I presume Macrium automatically ignored the bad ones.

    I then ran a backup of the entire drive with five listed drives some even listed as "none." It worked too with the same 84 bad clusters on drive C.

    As to a new SSD drive, the present one is a 512 MB one of which a little less than half of it was in use. Should I stick with this size? Is there an advantage with going with a larger one? Also with the Samsungs there are 970 EVO, EVO Plus, Pro. What's the difference?
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  6. topgundcp's Avatar
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    There was no advanced edit options available under Other Tasks
    Other Tasks->Edit Defaults.... ->Advanced
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  7. Posts : 358
    Windows 10
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    JeffFinnan said:
    ... Also with the Samsungs there are 970 EVO, EVO Plus, Pro. What's the difference?
    Buy 970 EVO or EVO Plus, whichever is cheaper.
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  8. Posts : 54
    Windows 10 64 Version 10.0.18363.628
    Thread Starter
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    As I wait for the new SSD to arrive, I thought I'd would on better understanding what is going on or not going on.

    Now when in Macrium the boot SSD shows all these drives:
    Attachment 264670

    What are those other drives or partitions?

    Thanks,
    Jeff
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  9. Posts : 358
    Windows 10
       #9

    The attachment is invalid.
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  10. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    JeffFinnan said:
    What are those other drives or partitions?
    We can't see your pic, but a standard Win 10 installation can create as many as 5 partitions on the drive...C and 4 more. Normally, you would include all of them in your Macrium image and restore all of them if you had a complete drive failure---although you can make an image file of only certain partitions or restore only certain partitions.

    What drive did you order? I'd stay with a well known name brand---Crucial, Samsung, Western Digital, Intel, etc.

    Your current SSD is less than half full, so there may not be any reason to buy a larger one. Larger drives can have slightly better performance as well as a larger TBW rating, but I wouldn't let that be the deciding factor when purchasing. Think about capacity, price, basic performance numbers, warranty, and the relationship with the seller.
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