New Macrium Reflect Updates [2]

steve108 said:

Interesting ....... I just bought a v8 4-pack, so I have lots of learning to do about all this.

You know about the 50% off BF sale, I presume: Macrium Software | Black Friday

Yeah, but I bought mine back when Macrium 8 was close to release, so I'm no longer in the market. I had one paid V.7 already, so I still own the license to that one. One V.7 and 4 V.8s.

Wynona said:

If I pay the upgrade (less than full) price to upgrade from V.7 to V.8, I give up the right to V.7. However, if I pay the full price of V.8, I can still keep using V.7.

Just the same as it is for Windows . . . pay the upgrade price and give up the right to the older version. Pay full price and you still own the license to the older version. Of course that's the way it used to be. Now, if you get the free upgrade, you give up the right to the older version. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Hi Southern Belle ,

You are indeed correct but of course there are a few days a year you can have best of both worlds i.e. when the 50% off Black Friday deal comes around, where you can buy the V8 licences for same price as the V7 licence upgrade. I have just bought 4 full V8 licences and I still get to keep the V7 licences.

I put the V8 licences on my main devices and the V7 on lesser used devices.

Strictly you cannot give away your licences but you are allowed to put it on pcs you lease. I give away the older V7 licences to family members though as I have accounts on their devices to help them technically.

cereberus said:

Hi Southern Belle ,

You are indeed correct but of course there are a few days a year you can have best of both worlds i.e. when the 50% off Black Friday deal comes around, where you can buy the V8 licences for same price as the V7 licence upgrade. I have just bought 4 full V8 licences and I still get to keep the V7 licences.

I put the V8 licences on my main devices and the V7 on lesser used devices.

Strictly you cannot give away your licences but you are allowed to put it on pcs you lease. I give away the older V7 licences to family members though as I have accounts on their devices to help them technically.

Yeah, way back when we had an online meeting with reps of Macrium. We had a drawing for a V.7 4-pack. I was the drawer and drew a fellow member's name. Not that I deserved it, but he "gave" me one of his newly acquired Macrium Reflects!

Although it was on my computer, it continued to be in his name. I now have my own 4-pack of V.8 and one purchased V.7.

As so many have said, I bought the 4-pack to support Macrium. And to kind of make up for the fact that I tell my students the free version is literally all they need for the one computer they own.

Wynona said:

Although it was on my computer, it continued to be in his name...

That name was stored in Licensee in the key Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Macrium\reflect at the time you install the license key. You can edit it with no apparent effect on licensing. It only seems to be checked the once when installing the key. I removed a license from an old PC to transfer it to a new replacement laptop, but left Reflect installed on the old PC. It reverted to v8 Free, but still showed my name as the licensee. I changed that to say 'Free User' as it would for a fresh install of the Free edition and it continued to work as normal.

Wynona said:

Yeah, way back when we had an online meeting with reps of Macrium. We had a drawing for a V.7 4-pack. I was the drawer and drew a fellow member's name. Not that I deserved it, but he "gave" me one of his newly acquired Macrium Reflects!

Although it was on my computer, it continued to be in his name. I now have my own 4-pack of V.8 and one purchased V.7.

As so many have said, I bought the 4-pack to support Macrium. And to kind of make up for the fact that I tell my students the free version is literally all they need for the one computer they own.

Today, I was messing around with some network settings and got in a tangle. I had made an incremental backup (1 minute) just before this - did a restore using V8 Paid version and PC was restored in 1 minute - You can do same with free version making a differential backup, and restoring from that but it takes like 15+ minutes on my device plus a few minutes making diff.

After you have used Rapid Delta Restore coupled with incremental backups, it is like driving a Roller compared with a Ford. As my dear old Gran used to say "You get what you pay for"

cereberus said:

Today, I was messing around with some network settings and got in a tangle. I had made an incremental backup (1 minute) just before this - did a restore using V8 Paid version and PC was restored in 1 minute - You can do same with free version making a differential backup, and restoring from that but it takes like 15+ minutes on my device plus a few minutes making diff.

After you have used Rapid Delta Restore coupled with incremental backups, it is like driving a Roller compared with a Ford. As my dear old Gran used to say "You get what you pay for"

Yes, it's quicker and far more reliable than System Restore so I now have that turned off.

kado897 said:

Yes, it's quicker and far more reliable than System Restore so I now have that turned off.

Yep - me too. INCs+RDR are like System Restore on steroids (paraphrasing @Kari).

However, It is important to understand the subtle difference though.

If you have added new data to drives being restored, you can lose the data if you have not backed it up BEFORE doing restore.

Alternatively, keep new data on a separate drive that you are not restoring (still needs backing up separately of course).

cereberus said:

Yep - me too. INCs+RDR are like System Restore on steroids (paraphrasing @Kari).

However, It is important to understand the subtle difference though.

If you have added new data to drives being restored, you can lose the data if you have not backed it up BEFORE doing restore.

Alternatively, keep new data on a separate drive that you are not restoring (still needs backing up separately of course).

Yes, I understand the difference. Still worth it though.

kado897 said:

Yes, I understand the difference. Still worth it though.

I was really saying it for benefit of the unenlightened ,

cereberus said:

Today, I was messing around with some network settings and got in a tangle. I had made an incremental backup (1 minute) just before this - did a restore using V8 Paid version and PC was restored in 1 minute - You can do same with free version making a differential backup, and restoring from that but it takes like 15+ minutes on my device plus a few minutes making diff.

After you have used Rapid Delta Restore coupled with incremental backups, it is like driving a Roller compared with a Ford. As my dear old Gran used to say "You get what you pay for"

Oh, I understand that the user gives up a few bells and whistles plus some time when using the free version of 'most anything. In this instance, since we're all retired seniors on fixed income, we have lots of time and not so much money.

Bottom line is that we sometimes have to pick and choose between paid apps vs free ones.