Enabling copying restore points from System Volume Information


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    Enabling copying restore points from System Volume Information


    Hi,

    After some manipulations, I gained entry to the "hidden" folder <System Volume Information> and granted access to all functions to both User and Administrator (both me). No major problem there.

    Purpose is to backup some restore points to a separate disk, so that I can still return to a much earlier point when Windows has deleted the restore points, usually not because the allocated space is full (I've given it ample space) but after a major update, like going from one build to the other (as from 1809 to 1903). As everyone has experienced by now, even when the update fails, all one's restore points are gone. Bravo Microsoft for yet another annoyance!

    However, even with full access to said folder, it's simply impossible to copy any restore points, let alone paste them somewhere. When trying this, error popups say you need administrator rights to do so, while the administrator has duly been granted access to the folder.

    How does one get rid of that umpteenth and grievous Microsoft annoyance?

    Thanks for answering this.

    haku
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    when Windows has deleted the restore points, usually not because the allocated space is full (I've given it ample space) but after a major update, like going from one build to the other (as from 1809 to 1903).
    Please note that a restore point created in an older build is NOT applicable to a newer build. That is why restore points are deleted like this when upgrading.

    What you are attempting is not a good approach, not just for this reason, but also because System Restore cannot be relied on to restore successfully.

    You'd be better advised to use disk imaging routinely. This forum very frequently recommends this - e.g. Macrium reflect + external storage for image files.

    However, unlike System Restore, the whole partition or disk imaged is restored- including any data. Hence best to keep user data off C: as far as posisble.

    If you want a System Restore-like replacement, something that provides somewhat comparable functionality is RollbackRX (just search for it).

    However, I'm not clear what you need to do with that when a feature update is applied.
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    Thanks for the swift reply. And I thank you for the suggestions for disk imaging.
    Being a long time computer user, I realise of course that restoration afte a major "build" update would be a a silly thing to do in a normal situation. However, if you read my message, I am speaking of a failed Windows update attempt, which is supposed to return the machine to its previous state. I am also as fully aware that Restore points are not exactly on the rocket science level. I suppose I am not learning you anything new there.
    As for the reason why I want to go back to an earlier stage, and have the total freedom to do so, is because in a particular case the failed update thrashed my external hard disk and made it totally unreadable. Fortunately, I had a real backup of the System Volume Information folder stored away on the cloud, and could retrieve the restoration files of a situation prior to the failed update.
    And, dear Dachina, lo and behold! Once the restoration had taken place, believe it or not (I amply documented this with screenshots): the hard drive was again readable, albeit in a precarious fashion. To make this a truly scientific proof, I went back and forth a few times between the situation before and the situation after - with exactly the same result.

    Were the files retrievable in the before situation? Up to a point. But any other than a simple copying manœuvre on the drive resulted in a CRC situation, that's how precarious the drive had become. And this is not a situation where the drive had by chance gone astray just as the update was taking place - otherwise, why would it more or less function in the before situation and not in the after situation?

    Anyway, that little mystery will be thoroughly examined in a separate enquiry. My only question remains, and just consider it a matter of curiosity: how to copy those restoration points and paste them somewhere else, which seems impossible now, even with all administrator and user rights installed.

    Thank you.

    haku

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    haku said: View Post
    My only question remains, and just consider it a matter of curiosity: how to copy those restoration points and paste them somewhere else, which seems impossible now, even with all administrator and user rights installed.
    My problem was similar, but rather than copy files I wanted to delete several GB of junk that had been put in System Volume Information and could not be removed by deleting restore points. The solution to both our problems is not to boot into Window to try it.

    Boot from any other OS (a Linux Live usb, for example) and you can copy the files from System Volume Information. The 'other' OS I used was to boot to a Command Prompt at Advanced Startup, then cd into System Volume Information and rmdir the rogue folder. You could use xcopy /s.

    ...thank you for the suggestions for disk imaging.
    That would provide another option. Once you have a Macrium image of the drive you can double-click on it (or right-click) to mount it as a virtual drive, there is a tick-box to enable access to restricted folders.





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    @Bree- just for clarification, what is your view of of the utility of copying SR points as haku is dicussing?
    @haku - just to reiterate- your protection against a failed update- which could leave your PC unbootable or unrecoverable- is ot use disk imaging.

    E.g. - I started a 1903 upgrade on my 2nd PC last night. It was stuck for an hour or two at 85%- then finally moved on. But now after a restart- normal part of the sequence- it's been at 86% - all night.

    A SR point is not going to help there, should it never complete. But I did update my disk image before starting.
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    dalchina said: View Post
    @Bree- just for clarification, what is your view of of the utility of copying SR points as haku is dicussing?
    Fraught with danger, especially after a major update to a new version of Windows. But haku said "... just consider it a matter of curiosity" so I did, and satisfied that curiosity. Actually applying those restore points could break the system.


    Like you, a Macrium image is my first line of defence should I wish to return a machine to a previous state. In fact, I can't remember the last time I used a restore point.
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