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    Can I backup different Windows 10 versions with Macrium Reflect


    Hi. I am about to backup Windows 10 1809 with an external hard drive using Macrium. When the next major update (version1903) is installed, can I use the same external hard drive to back up the new version as well? The external HD is 2 TB. Thanks in advance for any replies.
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
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    Hi, yes, provided there's enough free space, but you should create a new base image as so much will have changed.

    (A base image is the first, then you can use smaller faster images representing changes e.g. differential (free) or incremental (licensed version) ).

    I.e. you may wish to create a new '1903' folder and store your image set there.

    Once confident with 1903, you can delete the old images for 1809.

    Hopefully you are using Macrium's 'Create an image of the partitions needed..' to select all partitions for the OS, not just 'C:'
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  3. Bree's Avatar
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    Mcd73165 said:
    Hi. I am about to backup Windows 10 1809 with an external hard drive using Macrium. When the next major update (version1903) is installed, can I use the same external hard drive to back up the new version as well? The external HD is 2 TB.
    Yes. I have a 2TB external HDD that currently holds images of all my machines. The have a range of different OS, including Windows 7 (32 & 64 bit) and Windows 10 (32 & 64 bit). As dalchina suggested, you may want to create a new folder for your 1903 image just to help you keep track of what images you have kept. I have a separate folder for each machine.

    However, even if you are using Macrium's retention rules to purge earlier backups it is not a requirement to use separate folders. Macrium's retention rules work on the image ID of your backup, so will only apply to that one particular backup set and will ignore any other backup sets (for this PC or any other machine) that may be in that folder.

    Each backup set is managed independently. Provided you have the available space you can have multiple backup sets on your HDD without them interfering with each other.
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    dalchina said:
    Hi, yes, provided there's enough free space, but you should create a new base image as so much will have changed.

    (A base image is the first, then you can use smaller faster images representing changes e.g. differential (free) or incremental (licensed version) ).

    I.e. you may wish to create a new '1903' folder and store your image set there.

    Once confident with 1903, you can delete the old images for 1809.

    Hopefully you are using Macrium's 'Create an image of the partitions needed..' to select all partitions for the OS, not just 'C:'
    dalchina: I have the free version and yes I used Create an image of the partitions needed. The backup drive should have enough space on it to create an image of a few versions. If I understand correctly if space runs out then previous backups will be wiped. Thanks very much for your input.
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  5. Bree's Avatar
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    Mcd73165 said:
    If I understand correctly if space runs out then previous backups will be wiped...
    If you set up a backup you will (by default) save the backup definition as an .xml file when you start the backup. This backup definition file contains any backup retention rules you have selected. The Backup definition can then be selected on the 'Backup Definition Files' tab and run to create a Full, Differential or (in the paid version) Incremental backup. Any and all backups created from this backup definition are a 'backup set', it is only the images in this backup set to which the retention rules will be applied when you run this backup definition.

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    If you edit your backup definition file to change the name of the image file, or if you create a new backup definition file for your 1903 when you get it, then this will start a new independent backup set. Its retention rules will apply the this new backup set only. Images fron the old backup set will not be deleted by these rules, you will need to delete them manually if you need the space.


    Personally, as I keep images of many different machines on the one external drive, I have chosen not to set any retention rules. I prefer to manually delete my older images when no longer required.
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  6. dalchina's Avatar
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    If I understand correctly if space runs out then previous backups will be wiped.
    True for a given backup rule.

    But if you start a completely new image set with 1903 starting with a new base image, the old backup set will be retatined, as you are no longer using the rule that is applicable to them.

    The choice is yours.
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  7. Posts : 162
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    dalchina said:
    True for a given backup rule.

    But if you start a completely new image set with 1903 starting with a new base image, the old backup set will be retatined, as you are no longer using the rule that is applicable to them.

    The choice is yours.
    dalchina, I didn't know about or set any rules. I just made a base backup of 1809 using Create an image of the partitions needed.
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  8. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    You don't have to make rules or use the "XML backup definition file" as the last step at all.

    You can instead just walk through the process manually each time. Delete old images when you no longer want them.

    You can leave the "edit the plan for this backup" page empty. No template, no schedule, no rules, no purging.

    The whole thing is maybe 6 or 8 mouse clicks.
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    You don't have to make rules or use the "XML backup definition file" as the last step at all.

    You can instead just walk through the process manually each time. Delete old images when you no longer want them.

    You can leave the "edit the plan for this backup" page empty. No template, no schedule, no rules, no purging.

    The whole thing is maybe 6 or 8 mouse clicks.
    Thanks for that info. One question: assuming I make differential backups and I need to restore my pc using the backup image, do I use the base backup or just the differential backup or do one and then the other?
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    Mcd73165 said:
    Thanks for that info. One question: assuming I make differential backups and I need to restore my pc using the backup image, do I use the base backup or just the differential backup or do one and then the other?
    I use full images only. I don't want to add any complexity to something as critical as backup. Differentials add more steps and stuff to keep track of. That's not for me. I don't have drive space issues and am not trying to save time or make money by using differentials.

    I might consider them if I was making images dozens of times per month--but I make only 1 a month. Rarely more.

    But I think quite a few here do use differentials.
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