Macrium Reflect image question - dedicated drive?

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  1. f14tomcat's Avatar
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       1 Week Ago #21

    Steve C said: View Post
    Some further tips not mentioned above
    1. Some people use Reflect to clone their system to a spare drive in order to have a backup drive immediately available to boot
    2. The Reflect feature viBoot van be used to boot from a Reflect image to confirm you have a viable backup

    Reflect is an excellent and very well supported product. I wouldn't now use anything else having tried various alternatives (certainly not anything from Acronis)
    I believe if you read from the beginning, and other threads the OP has started on Macrium similar subjects, you'll find he has been using it for cloning, and is now investigating imaging as an alternative.
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       1 Week Ago #22

    dictum said: View Post
    How big of a USB flash drive do I need to make this Macrium Reflect recovery image?

    I have two, one is 16GB and the other is 32GB. I noticed they rapidly went down in price. So I can get another one if I have to.

    One holds Win10 Preloaded environment I got off this disk (the 16GB model) and the 32 holds Windows 10 install image I downloaded. My guess is, I won't use the latter again so 32GB is fit for this project.
    The Macrium Rescue environment will easily fit on a 4GB thumb. Here's a snapshot of mine. <500MB. I'm using the RE environment, and I think the PE environment is a little larger....maybe 650-700MB. It will fit on the smallest available thumb you can get. Just use a decent brand.

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       1 Week Ago #23

    dictum said: View Post
    The other thing that I wonder about, Macrium Reflect image process recovers the operating system but of course not your personal files in ~/Documents that can be significantly larger than 17GB. So the point of the image is to boot an operating system and recover it. And deal with the data later.

    I hardly ever suffer data loss. Usually the damage is on the operating system level, or the EFI partition and such.
    If your personal files (Documents/Pictures/Videos/Etc.) are on the C: drive/partition, they will be backed up automatically as part of backing up the C: drive. Nothing special you need to do. If those files, or others you may have, are on another partition, say D: for example, just include that partition along with C: and the other support partitions in your definition file, and they will be backed up when you run it. If the data files are in fact on a separate partition, they could be restored by themselves without restoring the whole OS. Same with restoring just the OS and not the data files. Lots of flexibility. And, of course, as mentioned a few times, the image file could be mounted and "Explored" like a drive to view and/or copy anything you wanted.

    Lots of options.
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       1 Week Ago #24

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    The Macrium Rescue environment will easily fit on a 4GB thumb. Here's a snapshot of mine. <500MB. I'm using the RE environment, and I think the PE environment is a little larger....maybe 650-700MB. ...
    Actually the PE environment is even smaller, <300MB

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       1 Week Ago #25

    Bree said: View Post
    Actually the PE environment is even smaller, <300MB

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    Thanks, Bree, smaller then.........

    Still fits nicely on the smallest thumb the OP can find. RE is preferred, if available. If he has deleted his Recovery Partition, as some suggest doing to save ~750MB on a 1TB drive, he will be forced to use the PE.

    But is way OT. So, back to the basics.
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  6.    1 Week Ago #26

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Yes, the flash drive. You would boot from that to restore the image from the external drive. Fairly straight forward.

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect | Tutorials

    Space wise, it does depend on how big the OS is, but Macrium will by default compress the image about 60%. My OS and supporting partitions total about 32GB, and create a 17GB backup image. So you can get a feel from that with a little math how much space you would need and how many images you can store. 4TB is a lot of space. I generally store 12 images with no issues at all. You have plenty of space.

    Your boot drive is 1TB, but it's the size of the OS and supporting partitions that counts. Macrium will not back up unused space.
    I am currently doing this, "Make a disk image" option. Writing to my external USB drive. It's large and slow.

    Where is the link on how to make a bootable recovery flash drive? I have a 8GB USB flash drive I can allocate to that usage.

    It's currently writing the disk image to the large 4TB drive I have but that's not the same thing. Plus I already have a Windows PE USB flash drive I created based on this forum, is that what you mean or something else?
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       6 Days Ago #27

    dictum said: View Post
    I am currently doing this, "Make a disk image" option. Writing to my external USB drive. It's large and slow.

    Where is the link on how to make a bootable recovery flash drive? I have a 8GB USB flash drive I can allocate to that usage.

    It's currently writing the disk image to the large 4TB drive I have but that's not the same thing. Plus I already have a Windows PE USB flash drive I created based on this forum, is that what you mean or something else?
    The Windows PE rescue thumb you have previously created is the product of Kyhi. It is not the same thing...a totally different content and purpose. The Rescue thumb you need for Macrium is tailored to your machine and the purposes intended for restoring in a Rescue Environment, among other things (not important now). The entire process for creating the Rescue Environment and the Rescue Media (thumb drive in this case) is outlined in detail and completely in Macrium's Knowledge Base linked here:

    Creating rescue media - KnowledgeBase v7.2 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase - KnowledgeBase v7.2 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

    The tutorial in Tenforums that has been posted for you a few times does not seem to be updated to the current version of Macrium, so you will find all current info in the Knowledge Base link above.
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       6 Days Ago #28

    Hi folks
    I've found actually the best sort of rescue tool is a Linux distro with a full blown Windows VM on VMWARE on it -- If you install the whole kybosh on an external SSD with a SATA-->USB3 (or even USB2) connector performance is totally fine -- even on the Windows VM.

    Then just install anything you like on the windows machine as per normal.

    The Linux system will boot on almost any hardware you care to name and the windows VM will also boot -- you'll get a message (maybe if booting and system detects a different machine) prompting you to chose between "I copied it" or "I moved it" choose "I moved it" as this will preserve Windows activation.

    Ensure on the host you have samba and ntfs-3g enabled then you have a perfect "windows box" which you can also use to repair / investigate problems on other boxes too. You also have access to any Linux tools too if required.


    The KYHI disk is excellent for its purpose and you should continue with OS backups of course -- its just people often have different tools and philosophies when diagnosing / repairing gear --those no "one size fits all "here. Having a whole armoury of tools gives you the widest choice and probably the best options -- however before any of this the 100% most important thing is to take regular backups which Macrium does quite nicely.
    Cheers
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       6 Days Ago #29

    Thanks, Jimbo, but this whole current discussion pertains to the Macrium Reflect product Rescue Media. Nothing at all to do with Linux or any general purpose Rescue Environments, Like Kyhi's or Linux, or any other. Macrium specific for it's purpose.
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       6 Days Ago #30

    Hi there
    I mentioned that whatever tools people use 100% requirement is people should take regular backups -- Macrium is ideal for this and currently AFAIK has no problems even on the Windows latest insider builds.

    Cheers
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