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  1. cereberus's Avatar
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    paul1149 said:
    That's the rub. On a 32GB eMMC, it's all academic anyway, I suppose. Even if I got the image down to 8GB, it's too big. I have yet to examine a factory 32GB setup to see how they do it, but I do think they have an image there. I know they turn off System Restore, which I can afford to turn back on when I fresh install. But there's not enough room for an image. A 64GB eMMC would be a marginal situation, and maybe shrinking the image would make the difference.
    I do not understand what you are talking about. I image backup my 32GB mmc tablet quite happily with Macrium Reflect Free storing image on a usb drive, and have a boot entry. Incidentally AOMEI fails.
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  2. clam1952's Avatar
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       #22

    Looks like the OP is storing the backup on the drive that's being backed up? which is kind of pointless. If the drive dies so does the backup. Backups need to be on a different drive preferably an external USB of some kind.
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  3. cereberus's Avatar
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    clam1952 said:
    Looks like the OP is storing the backup on the drive that's being backed up? which is kind of pointless. If the drive dies so does the backup. Backups need to be on a different drive preferably an external USB of some kind.
    Well in the case of an emmc drive, drive failure does not really matter in the sense that emmc drives are not replaceable anyway. Of course, drive could get corrupted, and storing backup takes a lot of space anyway.
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       #24

    clam1952 said:
    Looks like the OP is storing the backup on the drive that's being backed up? which is kind of pointless. If the drive dies so does the backup. Backups need to be on a different drive preferably an external USB of some kind.
    Yes I am. Just as every manufacturer does on virtually every computer sold.
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  5. paul1149's Avatar
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       #25

    Update: I finally got my hands on a factory image of a 32GB eMMC. Beside the normal Windows partition and a couple of very small ancillary partitions, there is a WinRE partition about 950MB in size, about a third of it in use. Most of that is taken up by a WinRE.wim file.

    I see nothing else on the disk big enough to store a recovery image, yet apparently there is one somewhere. I started going through the Reset process to check, and it looked like it would succeed, except it complained there was not enough free space to work with.

    So I'm still baffled by how the OEM's do their recovery partitions on these small drives.
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  6. Bree's Avatar
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       #26

    paul1149 said:
    So I'm still baffled by how the OEM's do their recovery partitions on these small drives.
    Windows 10 does not need recovery images in a separate partition, as was the case for previous versions of Windows. A reset can be done by reinstalling W10 from the system files on the C: drive.

    For the OEM customisations, utilities and drivers an OEM provisioning package can be placed in the C:\Recovery folder. If present, this will be included when resetting Windows. It will also be included if you build a recovery drive and tick the box to 'include system files', thus a recovery drive made by an OEM pre-installed Windows 10 will effectively be a 'factory reset' usb.

    Create Provisioning Package in Windows 10 | Tutorials
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  7. Porthos's Avatar
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       #27

    I just hate when I get a client who purchased a laptop with one of those drives and thinks it is a real computer that can do everything and store anything thay want. And of courst there is the Feature update issues. Most let me get them a real laptop and the toss the 32gig one off to the kids.
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  8. paul1149's Avatar
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       #28

    Bree said:
    Windows 10 does not need recovery images in a separate partition, as was the case for previous versions of Windows. A reset can be done by reinstalling W10 from the system files on the C: drive.
    For the OEM customisations, utilities and drivers an OEM provisioning package can be placed in the C:\Recovery folder. If present, this will be included when resetting Windows. It will also be included if you build a recovery drive and tick the box to 'include system files', thus a recovery drive made by an OEM pre-installed Windows 10 will effectively be a 'factory reset' usb.
    Create Provisioning Package in Windows 10 | Tutorials
    Wow, I was wondering about this, like if there was some kind of grand System Restore in operation. Does this mean a clean install on a wiped drive will have a working Reset function?
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  9. paul1149's Avatar
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       #29

    Porthos said:
    I just hate when I get a client who purchased a laptop with one of those drives and thinks it is a real computer that can do everything and store anything thay want. And of courst there is the Feature update issues. Most let me get them a real laptop and the toss the 32gig one off to the kids.
    This was a feature update, btw. Oddly, WU showed no KB number for it.

    I am in awe at how good the Stream performs for the money, especially when compared to netbooks of only a few years ago. But the 32gb limitation baffles me. Why not 64gb, at the least? I know, some of them do have that.

    The other thing I lament about them is that everything is soldered onto the MB. The machine is largely a throwaway when a problem arises.

    As for the space limitation, I've been thinking a class 10 SD card mounted invisibly to the user profile via symlink, would take care of things nicely. I haven't tried it though.
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  10. Bree's Avatar
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       #30

    paul1149 said:
    Does this mean a clean install on a wiped drive will have a working Reset function?
    Yes, but the Reset will be to the Windows 10 that was installed after wiping the drive. If that was done with a download of Microsoft's install media you will have lost the OEM provisioning package when you wiped the drive. If you made a recovery drive usb before wiping the drive and used that to do a clean install, then you will have retained the OEM customisations.
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