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  1. Posts : 298
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    Using Restore Points


    found this:
    v Using Restore Points-image.png
    Still confused about restore point. Found this, says it's off. Shouldn't I click 'configure' to set this up to be able to set some 'restore points' now and then? If things got cranky, fix it up easily "...by reverting your computer to a previous restore point..." looks simple.
    Would this be an easy one or two click thing to try before going through restoring the image backup?
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  2. Clintlgm's Avatar
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    Actually, you should download Macrium Reflect free, Install it and spend some time learning it Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect | Windows 10 Tutorials You will be creating Images of your OS and DATA drives that can be restored quite easily with great reliability ease and speed.

    If you wish to use restore points yes you'll have to configure them, as the image shows you have them turned off for C:\
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  3. COMPUTIAC's Avatar
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    Clintlgm said:
    Actually, you should download Macrium Reflect free, Install it and spend some time learning it Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect | Windows 10 Tutorials You will be creating Images of your OS and DATA drives that can be restored quite easily with great reliability ease and speed.

    If you wish to use restore points yes you'll have to configure them, as the image shows you have them turned off for C:\
    He has MR already.

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  4. Wiley Coyote's Avatar
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    OK, now I'm confused. My system has ALWAYS had OS (C) System and Image turned on.
    Using Restore Points-capture.png
    Never understood that, and now I'm thinking Image shouldn't be there. Appreciate it if you can you clarify it for me.
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  5. Clintlgm's Avatar
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    It all turned off on mine Using Restore Points-system-properties-restore-points.png I didn't know he had MR already if so why would he be concerned about unreliable restore points
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  6. COMPUTIAC's Avatar
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    Clintlgm said:
    It all turned off on mine Using Restore Points-system-properties-restore-points.png I didn't know he had MR already if so why would he be concerned about unreliable restore points
    Not sure, for some reason he thinks its quicker.
    In all reality, its not safe and reliable far as I'm concerned.

    Plus the restore points are wiped out with every cumulative update, so if the update goes bad
    how do you recover with no restore point ?
    Last edited by COMPUTIAC; 09 Sep 2018 at 21:59.
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  7. cereberus's Avatar
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    ImLost said:
    found this:
    v Using Restore Points-image.png
    Still confused about restore point. Found this, says it's off. Shouldn't I click 'configure' to set this up to be able to set some 'restore points' now and then? If things got cranky, fix it up easily "...by reverting your computer to a previous restore point..." looks simple.
    Would this be an easy one or two click thing to try before going through restoring the image backup?
    Restore points are not an image backup. They have been around for many years even in XP iirc.

    They just take snapshots of the registry and allow limited windback to a previous state e.g. if you install a program that screws something up and use a restore point before you installed it, the registry will be reset to older state and program will be deleted. Data is not removed.

    It is not that reliable and is not fully reversible i.e. in above example if you then used a later restore point, the program will not be restored.

    Image backups are much more reliable, even though they may take longer but on my mid range laptop with around 40GB to backup (using sdd), it only takes about 15 mins for a full backup.

    With Macrium Reflect Free, you can make differential backups (incremental for paid version) which are like restore points in a way but totally reversible. However, it is important to note data on the imaged drive also gets reverted to earlier state which is partly why I always store data on a separate drive which I backup by a different method.
    Last edited by cereberus; 10 Sep 2018 at 05:42.
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  8. dalchina's Avatar
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    An important difference between SRestore and imaging is that restoring a System Restore point only affects system files and possibly installed programs (as listed when doing this). It does not affect data.

    Restoring a disk image means restoring everything on the disks/partitions restored is restored to as it was on the date the image was created. That includes data.

    To me this is a good argument to keep as much personal data off C: as possible.

    Unfortunately restoring SRestore points often proves unreliable- even in Safe Mode.

    Note too that System Restore is turned off after an upgrade, and that, quite correctly, all restore points are deleted.
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  9. Posts : 1,238
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    ImLost said:
    found this:
    v Using Restore Points-image.png
    Still confused about restore point. Found this, says it's off. Shouldn't I click 'configure' to set this up to be able to set some 'restore points' now and then? If things got cranky, fix it up easily "...by reverting your computer to a previous restore point..." looks simple.
    Shouldn't I click 'configure' to set this up to be able to set some 'restore points' now and then? If things got cranky, fix it up easily "...by reverting your computer to a previous restore point..." looks simple.
    "Still confused about restore point." when you say "still confused", does that mean you have already inquired about system restore? If so don't let those confusions interfere with the issue at hand which I interpret to mean you want how to understand how to use system restore. The posts already included bring up legitimate opinions but in your case I strongly suggest keeping it simple: just the basics.

    FYI, whenever I help some one I always create a system restore point right up front not as a fix at that point but as a starting point of the computers situation. After moving on to address whatever the computer needs I will create a system restore point that mentions the computer is fixed. Before I leave I'll create another restore point because if something goes wrong later on, I can go back to the point of when the computer was fixed and running properly. Notice that system restore isn't what fixed the issues, they are just points when the system was either questionable or when it was running properly.

    "Shouldn't I click 'configure' to set this up to be able to set some 'restore points' now and then? If things got cranky, fix it up easily "...by reverting your computer to a previous restore point..." looks simple."
    --- Yes turn it on.
    --- "easily" & "looks simple" sounds good but someone needs to know the basics before that approach is reasonable.

    "Shouldn't I click 'configure' to set this up to be able to set some 'restore points' now and then? If things got cranky, fix it up easily "...by reverting your computer to a previous restore point..." looks simple."
    --- That's a good question but not an always good answer.
    --- If you suspect restoring to a previous restore point will help, try it.
    --- But then if the computer is in serious trouble, don't even try that, use your MRF system image backup.
    --- When you encounter a situation that isn't cut & dry, post the issue as there's plenty of excellent help available.

    @I'mLost, I hope my recommendations are helpful but there are times I wonder about that.
    ---That doesn't mean to always follow my recommendations, but evaluate what makes sense to you from everyone else also in order to progress.
    --- Many times I'm trying to balance what a good recommendation is vs. trying to accommodate you.

    There are System Restore points tutorials available and I'm willing to list the ones that should be helpful to you but I need to know if you are interested in such a list.
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  10. Posts : 298
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    The phrase tells you it does same thing as MR image restore..... says it reverts back to a previous point. And it seems easier than MR image restore, so why not try it first? Make restore point today, if it starts acting weird tomorrow, couple of clicks to revert back to the way things were today.
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