Using Restore Points

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  1. Posts : 1,471
    Win10 Home x64 - 1809
       #11

    FYI ... You can expect to see daily Restore Points being created by Windows Modules Installer. This is due to a change MS made approx 1 month ago and is caused by the Windows Defender Verification Task in Task Scheduler.

    See my post #4 - Windows Modules Installer listed in System Restore points - Windows 10 Forums
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  2. Posts : 15,480
    Windows10
       #12

    ImLost said:
    The phrase tells you it does same thing as MR image restore..... says it reverts back to a previous point. And it seems easier than MR image restore, so why not try it first? Make restore point today, if it starts acting weird tomorrow, couple of clicks to revert back to the way things were today.
    You are not understanding the point.

    A restore point does NOT do the same as an image backup and restore.

    It only partly changes things but does keep data.

    It is not fully reversible.

    Imagine you create restore point 1 on day 1.

    You install program A on day 2 and create restore point 2.

    You revert to restore point 1,Program A is deleted.

    You go forward again to Restore Point 2 but Program A is not reinstated - changes are not fully reversible.

    Image backups are 100% reversible.

    We know from many years experience, they are not that reliable - they quite often fail to work, and pc discards it reverting back to where it started.

    Sure, no issue trying them but we STRONGLY recommend having regular image backups. They may be slower but reliable. An image backup is a 100% copy of what was on pc on day image was taken.

    The minor downside of image backups is later data will get removed if you go back, and data was on drive being restored. I keep data on my F drive partly for this reason.

    Anyway, you can always mount a later backup as a drive to retrieve any later data if you forget.

    Personally I gave up using restore points as too unreliable.
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  3. Posts : 56,825
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #13

    @ImLost - technically, yes, you can configure and create restore points. Manually or automatically. I'm repeating what has been said, but they are not reliable, not trustworthy, not a good idea. They are not a substitute for a full system image. They are not what you really should rely on, particularly as a first line of defense. You just finished closing out a 143 post thread on how to use your Macrium Software. Please do not waste what you worked over 3 weeks on. Stick with the full backups.
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  4. Posts : 1,345
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #14

    ImLost said:
    The phrase tells you it does same thing as MR image restore..... says it reverts back to a previous point. And it seems easier than MR image restore, so why not try it first? Make restore point today, if it starts acting weird tomorrow, couple of clicks to revert back to the way things were today.
    "The phrase tells you it does same thing as MR image restore" As everyone is mentioning, it doesn't.
    --- I know I mentioned creating restore points when helping someone but instead of bringing that up I should have just said that I do not use system restore on my own computer.

    Please review Dalchina's post #8 as he has a pretty good summary explanation of what you need to know.

    System image backups are the way to go and now that you know how to create them, keep them up.
    --- I do mine on a monthly basis
    --- It becomes 2nd nature to do them and knowing they are ready at a moments notice is excellent insurance.
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  5. Posts : 15,480
    Windows10
       #15

    f14tomcat said:
    @ImLost - technically, yes, you can configure and create restore points. Manually or automatically. I'm repeating what has been said, but they are not reliable, not trustworthy, not a good idea. They are not a substitute for a full system image. They are not what you really should rely on, particularly as a first line of defense. You just finished closing out a 143 post thread on how to use your Macrium Software. Please do not waste what you worked over 3 weeks on. Stick with the full backups.
    In the end, we have flogged a dead horse here making it clear what the differences are, why we recommend image backups etc.

    In the end (mixing metaphors), you can lead a horse to water but not make him drink.

    OP will just have to experiment and find out for him/herself about Restore Points by trying them. Ultimately the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

    I really see no point in turning this into another 143 post discussion.
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  6. Posts : 42,944
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #16


    The phrase tells you it does same thing as MR image restore..... says it reverts back to a previous point.
    No. Not the same. What is achieved by System Restore is utterly different both in terms of what it does and how it does it.
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  7. Posts : 56,825
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #17

    Pardon the clipped-quote, I'm just borrowing a piece of Martin's post.


    "OP will just have to experiment and find out for him/herself about Restore Points by trying them. Ultimately the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

    I really see no point in turning this into another 143 post discussion."




    The only way the OP is going to satisfy his curiosity and get an answer that he can believe and accept is to do it himself. Many, if not all, of the members who have contributed to this thread, and the others by the OP, have done research by experimentation. Since all systems are a tad unique to the owner, it's the accepted method to determine what is right for them. No posting and re-posting of our experience and opinions is going to convince the OP completely. He/she needs to be proactive and self-teach where possible. Instead of an endless what-if scenario, the context should be "I have tried this and need some assistance".

    OP has a working Backup Plan in place. OP has done a full system backup. OP should experiment with the restore point method, if he/she chooses, and see what happens. Then, OP will have first hand knowledge and experience.

    Experience cannot be taught.
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