Unable to boot from Bootable Norton Ghost USB

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  1. Posts : 428
    w10 1803
       #1

    Unable to boot from Bootable Norton Ghost USB


    I have 2 Toshiba laptops and I create back up images for them.

    I have created a Bootable Norton Ghost USB and on 1 of the laptops this works fine.

    However on my 2nd laptop - newer model - I cannot boot from the same USB stick so that I can either restore an image that I created or take a new image.

    I have tried the following

    - ensured no other USBs were connected
    - ensured fast boot option was turned off in power settings
    - disabled secure boot in the bios
    - tried other usb sticks and prepared other usbs using different methods

    please help as Ive just spent most of the day trying to resolve this and ended up manually rebuidling my laptop

    TIA Bart
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  2. Posts : 15,494
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       #2

    Norton Ghost - that is a blast from the past.

    It was discontinued many years ago and does not work on more modern UEFI pcs. As your newer device has secure boot, it must be a UEFI pc.

    Put Ghost in the dustbin (where I put it years ago), and download Macrium Reflect Free (look in tutorials section how to use it).
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  3. Posts : 428
    w10 1803
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Ah OK I see that makes sense.

    I use Norton........ Lol cos its the only thing Ive used.

    I've used Macrium once seemed quite straight forward but the file it created was huge, could I have not used the correct compression?

    Could you please send me a link to a tutorial and creating a bootable usb with it. Thanks in advance
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  4. Posts : 428
    w10 1803
    Thread Starter
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    Found the Macrium tutorial
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  5. Posts : 56,831
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    bartjunited said:
    Found the Macrium tutorial
    Here's the link to the free Macrium, if it's not in the tut.

    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free
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  6. Posts : 428
    w10 1803
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thanks
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  7. Posts : 428
    w10 1803
    Thread Starter
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    Thanks for your help guys Macrium worked a treat.

    Couple of quick questions I have with it if you can direct me

    1 - can i Rename the image file to something more meaningful?
    2 - I added the option to add it to the boot menu but can i reduce the timer to zero so I dont see it every time and instead when i want to use it I would use the SHIFT + RESTART option to see it? Or just boot off the USB?
    3 - Chose high compression but image was still 26gig, anything i can do about that?
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  8. Posts : 56,831
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    bartjunited said:
    Thanks for your help guys Macrium worked a treat.

    Couple of quick questions I have with it if you can direct me

    1 - can i Rename the image file to something more meaningful?
    2 - I added the option to add it to the boot menu but can i reduce the timer to zero so I dont see it every time and instead when i want to use it I would use the SHIFT + RESTART option to see it? Or just boot off the USB?
    3 - Chose high compression but image was still 26gig, anything i can do about that?
    @bartjunited

    1. You can change the name in the definition file each time, then run it...but that's kinda a pain. But it can be done. I wouldn't recommend trying to change it afterward.

    Attachment 201535

    2. The delay timing can be set to a minimum of 3 seconds in the MSCONFIG. Hold WIN KEY, press R, type MSCONFIG. Click on the Boot tab. Change the 10 to 3, apply, ok, exit no restart. I wouldn't recommend 0 delay (it can be done, but not thru MSCONFIG). 3 seconds is not obnoxious, but gives you a short time to decide. If you move the mouse at all during the 3 seconds, the timer stops. Boot Menu Option and Booting from USB Rescue thumb drive are two different things. Get you the same place. Boot menu is convenient, but thumb would be needed if it won't boot at all. SHIFT+RESTART gets you to the Windows Recovery environment...nothing to do with Macrium.

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    3. A screenshot of your Disk Management would be needed to see if 26GB is unreasonable. Rule of thumb is you get about a 40% compression at Normal and 60%+ at High.
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  9. Posts : 428
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    Thanks appreciate the input there and also clarity on the boot options whcih I didn't know about.

    Tomorrow I'll take a screenshot of the disk manager and post it.

    I do have some tiny partitions which I believe came with the laptop which I never use so not sure if I can get rid of them.

    One of a Win RE partition whcih I thought was recovery to the original factory setting with all the bloatware etc which I've never used either
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  10. Posts : 56,831
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    bartjunited said:
    Thanks appreciate the input there and also clarity on the boot options whcih I didn't know about.

    Tomorrow I'll take a screenshot of the disk manager and post it.

    I do have some tiny partitions which I believe came with the laptop which I never use so not sure if I can get rid of them.

    One of a Win RE partition whcih I thought was recovery to the original factory setting with all the bloatware etc which I've never used either
    @bartjunited

    DO NOT DELETE ANY PARTITIONS! Please..... those "tiny" partitions are essential to the system. Like EFI and LBA, etc. They are part of the system. We will show you after you post the Disk Management Screen.
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