Copy/Clone of HDD used for Windows Backups

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    Yes, lots of people have suggested that already.

    Do you have any input that may help clone a disk while retaining access to shadow copies?
    Last edited by SIW2; 12 Jul 2018 at 16:16.
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    jmx said:
    SIW2
    I tried your suggestion of disconnecting the backup HDD then rebooting and then connecting the copy HDD.
    Iirc Clonezilla should do the job.

    Something of a mystery why you are having this problem.
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    SIW2 said:
    Yes, lots of people have suggested that already.

    Do you have any input that may help clone a disk while retaining access to shadow copies?
    Not really! I know that Macrium uses a unique back up ID identifier when creating/saving images. Could MS somehow link the shadow copies to the original back up media. Just a thought.
    Last edited by Stitch194; 12 Jul 2018 at 19:21.
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    Clive K said:
    What's not true? I was talking about the built in Windows imaging. Unless you delete the previous image set, it will make an incremental image. And when moved from its original location, it loses addressability to the increments. That was the main reason for the OP's original problem. Even if he had copied it to a different drive, he would have lost addressability to the increments. I understand you can mount a shadow volume to reestablish addressability to the increments, but I don't want to do that. I only do full images. With Macrium now.
    The thread is about Macrium Reflect issues. You confused things talking about Windows imaging.
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    SIW2 said:
    Yes, lots of people have suggested that already.

    Do you have any input that may help clone a disk while retaining access to shadow copies?
    Macrium Reflect Free uses smart sector imaging and does not clone all temporary data unless you select option to do a full bit by bit copy. Have you tried that (although why you are so concerned anyway is a mystery to me as you now know how to restore other images)?
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    I have come across this before. Using Clonezilla and then unplugging the source before booting into windows did the job.

    Not sure why that didn't work for the OP - assuming he followed the instructions, which he might not have given his response. He didn't say he used Clonezilla.

    SIW2
    I tried your suggestion of disconnecting the backup HDD then rebooting and then connecting the copy HDD. When I go to System Image Restore I do not have any luck seeing/listing the System Images that are in the "shadow storage area". I can only see the last System Image made.
    There are plenty of reasons to do it.
    1. One might want to move windows sys images to a larger/newer disk and still be able to access the earlier images.
    2. One might want to move the os to a new/larger/faster disk and still be able to get at shadow copies/restore pts.
    3. It is also of academic interest. Why try and find out what is in the Amazon rainforest? Easier to sit on your behind eating chips. Any enthusiast should be curious about why this isn't working for the OP.

    I might have a go when I get the time, I might try Aomei, Casper, DiskGenius,O&O DiskImage, etc,etc and try to get to the bottom of it. I used to test for Paragon a while back, but I am not over keen on their new version. I have got more imaging programs than you can shake a stick at. Not enough spare HDs atm, so don't know when I will get around to it.

    cereberus said:
    Macrium Reflect Free uses smart sector imaging and does not clone all temporary data unless you select option to do a full bit by bit copy. Have you tried that (although why you are so concerned anyway is a mystery to me as you now know how to restore other images)?
    Last edited by SIW2; 13 Jul 2018 at 12:26.
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       #27

    The thread title is:
    Copy/Clone of HDD used for Windows Backups .
    It is not specifically a macrium thread.
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       #28

    "Copy/Clone of HDD used for Windows Backups ."-- for a long time, I've used twin external hard-drives for each laptop's backup session, making a full image of each partition -- OS and Data, onto each of the twin external hard-drives. Reason? Long time ago, a backup HDD developed a logical failure, forcing a format, and losing those potential restores for that particular computer. After that, twin external HDDs.
    To offer a direct answer: I certainly like the idea of having two backup devices, one stored in a tiny safe, and if desired, another stored in a trustworthy, reliable, outside place.
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  9. jmx
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       #29

    SIW2, You were correct I did not use Clonezilla to copy/clone the backup HDD.
    I appreciate the info on ShadowCopyView. When I have more time I will check it out.

    cerebeus, Thanks for telling me that MR can restore images from alternate HDDs.

    Thanks to everyone who posted to this thread. I now have a better understanding of the backup alternatives for Windows.
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