Windows 10: 1 Button Back-up. Really?

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  1. f14tomcat's Avatar
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       04 Jul 2018 #21

    milford said: View Post
    O.K. Its going thru the motions.

    Thanks for the help. I gotta go. Wife yelling.
    Super! Post back if you need any more info....
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  2.    04 Jul 2018 #22

    SIW2 said: View Post
    It is a bit complicated.

    I recommend Aomei backupper as being the simplest imaging program to use .

    Best Windows Backup and Restore Software | AOMEI Backupper
    I strongly disagree!
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  3.    04 Jul 2018 #23

    So it looks like it worked. No errors. Now what? I still have over 400 Gigs of free space on the USB drive. If I do another back-up next week, what happens? Will the next back-up over-write the first back-up, or will it create a second back-up file? Will following back-ups keep adding to the USB drive until its full?

    Side note...The Template option was grayed out for the free version. Couldn't do any other kind of back-up.

    Should I have named the first back-up?

    Did Windows PE install onto the back-up drive also? Will this let me re-install the back-up to the hard drive?
    Do I still have to create Rescue Media before I can restore?

    I know, read everything.
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  4. f14tomcat's Avatar
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       04 Jul 2018 #24

    milford said: View Post
    So it looks like it worked. No errors. Now what? I still have over 400 Gigs of free space on the USB drive. If I do another back-up next week, what happens? Will the next back-up over-write the first back-up, or will it create a second back-up file? Will following back-ups keep adding to the USB drive until its full?

    Side note...The Template option was grayed out for the free version. Couldn't do any other kind of back-up.

    Should I have named the first back-up?

    Did Windows PE install onto the back-up drive also? Will this let me re-install the back-up to the hard drive?
    Do I still have to create Rescue Media before I can restore?

    I know, read everything.
    Did you create a backup definition file? The sentence I bolded above would have created one. In the definition file, you specify how many backups to keep, among other things. So, yes, they are a rolling first-in-first-out deletion based on your definition. Too much to type here, but it's all in the tutorial.

    This is a partial pic of a definition file with those parameters.

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  5.    04 Jul 2018 #25

    In Macrium on the main window, click up top in the menu on Other Tasks and then you can create rescue media:

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    If you make a new one and there is one in the folder, it will make a second image with a number change on the end so that you know it is not the same image. NAME-01-00 etc.

    If you name the files each time you will know which is what image. You can create your own template and schedule it. If you do that, I would recommend to retain a couple images:
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    Once you have made the rescue media, I would highly recommend you boot from it and make sure it works. It is always best to have a plan in place before disaster strikes.
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  6.    04 Jul 2018 #26

    Rescue Media..... So it says to add drivers for unsupported devices. Why? If I don't add Sound Drivers for my sound card, or Video Drivers for my Video Card, won't they be installed when I do a Restore?

    And it says I can use a CD. 650Mb large enough? Will a 1 Gig flash drive work?
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  7.    04 Jul 2018 #27

    You rarely have to add drivers to make the recovery drive work - it has generic drivers that work on most pcs.

    It has nothing to do with the actual windows 10 drivers which are backed up when you backup and restore fine.

    A CD or 500 MB flash drive (recommend you use a flash drive) is big enough.
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  8.    04 Jul 2018 #28

    cereberus said: View Post
    You rarely have to add drivers to make the recovery drive work - it has generic drivers that work on most pcs.

    It has nothing to do with the actual windows 10 drivers which are backed up when you backup and restore fine.

    A CD or 500 MB flash drive (recommend you use a flash drive) is big enough.
    I agree 1000% on the flash drive. Booting from the CD or DVD took my PC nearly 3x as long. Flash drive all the way!
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       05 Jul 2018 #29

    on the thumb drive. It's re-usable, too. So are re-writable DVDs, but I've always considered them chancy. CD/DVD can get damaged easier. Keep 2 thumbs and rotate them, on the out chance one gets damaged or the making of the Rescue fails for whatever reason. You still have a working one. And, by all means boot them to test if they will. Finding out it won't work at the time you need it is the wrong time.
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  10.    05 Jul 2018 #30

    If I do another back-up next week, what happens? Will the next back-up over-write the first back-up, or will it create a second back-up file? Will following back-ups keep adding to the USB drive until its full?
    The next backup would normally be a differential backup. That represents the changes between the backup (base image) you've created and 'now' - the current state. Thus it's faster and smaller.

    On your backup disk you will then have a large base image and a smaller differential image.
    To restore, you need either
    a. a base image
    or
    b. a base image + ANY differential image (related to that base image).

    What is kept (how many) is defined by default- and by you:
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    Thus you can estimate how much space you need for a full set.

    Hopefully your first image was this (including all partitions Windows creates when installed- note these are ticked):
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