Windows 10: Why is System Restore not automatically activated as default?

Page 1 of 9 123 ... LastLast
  1.    22 May 2018 #1

    Why is System Restore not automatically activated as default?


    Is there a reason why system restore is not automatically activated as default in Windows 10?

    Does it work well or are there alternative solutions?

    My experience with Windows 7 was that it sometimes worked OK but not all the time and I had problems with recovery system images.

    Can anyone also please recommend a viable solution (Microsoft or open source) after a new clean install and all the programs have been added (which is a very time consuming process...) i.e. what is the best solution for a system image that contains the operating system and all programs soon after a clean install?

    Many thanks for any advice.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  2.    22 May 2018 #2

    Hi, the topic of System Restore being disabled has been discussed a number of times here -e.g.
    Why is system restore disabled by default? Solved - Windows 10 Forums
    When is Microsoft going to fix System Restore being disabled? - Windows 10 Forums

    Sometimes it proves unreliable.

    We continually recommend Macrium Reflect (free) for disk imaging.

    As a very rough guide it takes about 12 mins to create a differential image (sort of an update to your image file set in crude terms) of Windows (without much added on that partition) on an SSD over USB3.

    The base (initial image) takes longer.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  3.    22 May 2018 #3

    It usually happens with large updates, MS is greatly depreciating native backup options and with them System Restore.
    As for 3rd party programs 3 of the Best Tools to Manage System Restore Points in Windows - Make Tech Easier
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  4.    22 May 2018 #4

    We continually recommend Macrium Reflect (free) for disk imaging.
    What is Macrium like on system resources? Does it slow down boot and general processing times and consume noticeable extra CPU or RAM? Can it be disabled in msconfig (startup, not services)?
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  5.    22 May 2018 #5

    You run it when you need to for imaging purposes if you do that manually. It uses 4 or 5Mb of RAM. 0 CPU when installed, not loaded.

    There are also options for scheduling imaging- I prefer not to do that as I have my image storage disconnected when not in use.

    Videos and basic tutorials here and on youtube- Macrium produces a huge help document. It's very well supported, but no access to its forum unless you use the paid product.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  6.    22 May 2018 #6

    meridius said: View Post
    What is Macrium like on system resources? Does it slow down boot and general processing times and consume noticeable extra CPU or RAM? Can it be disabled in msconfig (startup, not services)?
    Yes, all services can be disabled, it's only service is needed to mount backup file (.mrimg) so it could be edited directly.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	image.png 
Views:	1 
Size:	226.3 KB 
ID:	189741
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  7.    22 May 2018 #7

    Thanks. I may give it a go on a spare pc first to see how it performs.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  8.    22 May 2018 #8

    Hi, those who don't use disk imaging most regret it when things have gone wrong. Your disk may fail, your PC become irrecoverably unbootable- other hardware faults aside, disk imaging gives you a stress-free way to recover, quickly and hopefully without technical help. Don't leave it too late.

    Here's my write-up on the value of disk imaging.

    Everyone who contributes regularly here uses and recommends disk imaging.

    If you use it, you can recover from:
    - a failed disk drive (restore to a new one)
    - ransomware (which encrypts your disk)
    - user error
    - unrecoverable problems from failed updates to problem programs
    - unbootable PC (hardware faults aside)

    Images also act as a full backup- you can extract files too.

    You can even use images to help you move more easily and quickly to a new PC.
    Can be used with Laplink software to transfer your build automatically to another PC

    Imaging can even help you sleep at night knowing you have a second chance.

    Creating disk images lets you restore Windows and all your imaged disks and partitions to a previous working state from compressed copies you have created and kept updated on external storage media, quickly and probably without technical help.

    Many here recommend Macrium Reflect (free) as a good robust solution and more reliable than some others. It’s
    - more feature rich
    - more flexible
    - more reliable
    than Windows Backup and Restore system images.

    It's well supported with videos, help and a responsive forum.

    There are other such programs, free/commercial, some with simpler interfaces, but Macrium R is one of the most robust and reliable.

    How long does it take?
    SSD+ USB3 - maybe 15 mins for the first system image, less thereafter
    HDD + USB2 - maybe 40-50 mins
    That’s with little personal data, few programs installed.
    - of course, depends how much you have on C:
    (You can and should image all your partitions and disks)

    Once you've created your first image, keep it updated with e.g. differential imaging- which images just changes from the first image, more quickly, and creates a smaller image file.

    You need a backup medium - say- twice as large as the total amount of data you are imaging to keep a reasonable number of differential images. This will vary dependent on the number of images you keep, so is only a rough practical guide.

    Some comment that system restore isn't always reliable; if it works and solves the problem, great. But sometimes restores won't work or fail. And of course a restore point only covers a limited number of aspects of the system. That’s where disk imaging comes in.

    (There's a tutorial on Macrium in the Tutorials section, and a couple of videos in the user videos section on this forum)
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/61026-macrium-reflect-backup-restore.html
    https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/5361-windows-10-instructional-videos-ten-forums-members-69.html#post355809












    Macrium automatically selects all the partitions comprising Windows if you select that option.

    You can of course back up any combination of disks and partitions.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  9.    22 May 2018 #9

    Actually, I just looked and System restore stayed on enabled for C: drive after last Insider update, maybe they changed their minds on that.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	image.png 
Views:	118 
Size:	20.8 KB 
ID:	189746
    Not that it became any more useful
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  10.    22 May 2018 #10

    Hi, those who don't use disk imaging most regret it when things have gone wrong. Your disk may fail, your PC become irrecoverably unbootable- other hardware faults aside, disk imaging gives you a stress-free way to recover, quickly and hopefully without technical help. Don't leave it too late.
    Thanks. I will get on the case with this. Clean installs are too much hard work and this may be a better solution.
      My ComputersSystem Spec


 
Page 1 of 9 123 ... LastLast

Related Threads
How to Automatically Create System Restore Point on Schedule in Windows 10 System protection (if turned on) is a feature that allows you to perform a system restore that takes your PC back to an earlier point in time, called a system restore...
How to Automatically Create System Restore Point at Startup in Windows 10 System protection (if turned on) is a feature that allows you to perform a system restore that takes your PC back to an earlier point in time, called a system restore...
Any ideas? I understand, that 10 relies on reset/refresh, but disabling SR is a bit drastic. :shock: Especially taking into account, how many flaws are in 10 right now, I wonder how it made RTM.
Solved Windows not activated after System Restore? in Windows Updates and Activation
I restored my system back a few days because my OS just started falling to pieces with errors. That issue is fixed, but now my windows isn't activated anymore. I have had no hardware changes, since i upgrades from windows 7 except changing the...
Hey Guys Is there a reason system restore is not enabled as default? Not needed any more/ is there now a better alternative ? Many thanks....
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:47.
Find Us