Why is System Restore not automatically activated as default?

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  1. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Why is System Restore not automatically activated as default?


    Is there a reason why system restore is not automatically activated as default in Windows 10?

    Does it work well or are there alternative solutions?

    My experience with Windows 7 was that it sometimes worked OK but not all the time and I had problems with recovery system images.

    Can anyone also please recommend a viable solution (Microsoft or open source) after a new clean install and all the programs have been added (which is a very time consuming process...) i.e. what is the best solution for a system image that contains the operating system and all programs soon after a clean install?

    Many thanks for any advice.
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  2. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, the topic of System Restore being disabled has been discussed a number of times here -e.g.
    Why is system restore disabled by default? Solved - Windows 10 Forums
    When is Microsoft going to fix System Restore being disabled? - Windows 10 Forums

    Sometimes it proves unreliable.

    We continually recommend Macrium Reflect (free) for disk imaging.

    As a very rough guide it takes about 12 mins to create a differential image (sort of an update to your image file set in crude terms) of Windows (without much added on that partition) on an SSD over USB3.

    The base (initial image) takes longer.
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  3. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #3

    It usually happens with large updates, MS is greatly depreciating native backup options and with them System Restore.
    As for 3rd party programs 3 of the Best Tools to Manage System Restore Points in Windows - Make Tech Easier
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  4. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    We continually recommend Macrium Reflect (free) for disk imaging.
    What is Macrium like on system resources? Does it slow down boot and general processing times and consume noticeable extra CPU or RAM? Can it be disabled in msconfig (startup, not services)?
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  5. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #5

    You run it when you need to for imaging purposes if you do that manually. It uses 4 or 5Mb of RAM. 0 CPU when installed, not loaded.

    There are also options for scheduling imaging- I prefer not to do that as I have my image storage disconnected when not in use.

    Videos and basic tutorials here and on youtube- Macrium produces a huge help document. It's very well supported, but no access to its forum unless you use the paid product.
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  6. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #6

    meridius said:
    What is Macrium like on system resources? Does it slow down boot and general processing times and consume noticeable extra CPU or RAM? Can it be disabled in msconfig (startup, not services)?
    Yes, all services can be disabled, it's only service is needed to mount backup file (.mrimg) so it could be edited directly.
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  7. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Thanks. I may give it a go on a spare pc first to see how it performs.
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  8. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

    Hi, those who don't use disk imaging most regret it when things have gone wrong. Your disk may fail, your PC become irrecoverably unbootable- other hardware faults aside, disk imaging gives you a stress-free way to recover, quickly and hopefully without technical help. Don't leave it too late.

    Here's my write-up on the value of disk imaging.

    Everyone who contributes regularly here uses and recommends disk imaging.

    If you use it, you can recover from:
    - a failed disk drive (restore to a new one)
    - ransomware (which encrypts your disk)
    - user error
    - unrecoverable problems from failed updates to problem programs
    - unbootable PC (hardware faults aside)

    Images also act as a full backup- you can extract files too.

    You can even use images to help you move more easily and quickly to a new PC.
    Can be used with Laplink software to transfer your build automatically to another PC

    Imaging can even help you sleep at night knowing you have a second chance.

    Creating disk images lets you restore Windows and all your imaged disks and partitions to a previous working state from compressed copies you have created and kept updated on external storage media, quickly and probably without technical help.

    Many here recommend Macrium Reflect (free) as a good robust solution and more reliable than some others. It’s
    - more feature rich
    - more flexible
    - more reliable
    than Windows Backup and Restore system images.

    It's well supported with videos, help and a responsive forum.

    There are other such programs, free/commercial, some with simpler interfaces, but Macrium R is one of the most robust and reliable.

    How long does it take?
    SSD+ USB3 - maybe 15 mins for the first system image, less thereafter
    HDD + USB2 - maybe 40-50 mins
    That’s with little personal data, few programs installed.
    - of course, depends how much you have on C:
    (You can and should image all your partitions and disks)

    Once you've created your first image, keep it updated with e.g. differential imaging- which images just changes from the first image, more quickly, and creates a smaller image file.

    You need a backup medium - say- twice as large as the total amount of data you are imaging to keep a reasonable number of differential images. This will vary dependent on the number of images you keep, so is only a rough practical guide.

    Some comment that system restore isn't always reliable; if it works and solves the problem, great. But sometimes restores won't work or fail. And of course a restore point only covers a limited number of aspects of the system. That’s where disk imaging comes in.

    (There's a tutorial on Macrium in the Tutorials section, and a couple of videos in the user videos section on this forum)
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/61026-macrium-reflect-backup-restore.html
    https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/5361-windows-10-instructional-videos-ten-forums-members-69.html#post355809












    Macrium automatically selects all the partitions comprising Windows if you select that option.

    You can of course back up any combination of disks and partitions.
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  9. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #9

    Actually, I just looked and System restore stayed on enabled for C: drive after last Insider update, maybe they changed their minds on that.
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    Not that it became any more useful
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  10. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Hi, those who don't use disk imaging most regret it when things have gone wrong. Your disk may fail, your PC become irrecoverably unbootable- other hardware faults aside, disk imaging gives you a stress-free way to recover, quickly and hopefully without technical help. Don't leave it too late.
    Thanks. I will get on the case with this. Clean installs are too much hard work and this may be a better solution.
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