Windows 10: Why is System Restore not automatically activated as default?

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  1.    28 May 2018 #71

    dalchina said: View Post
    Agreed that's only useful where it's a DIFFERENT disk that is to be restored, or you wish to restore C: on an undamaged disk e.g. when trying to repeat some fault finding sequence, say. It's an option to be used by more advanced users as a convenience in certain circumstances.
    The option is simply a way of doing restores without a boot drive but will not work in all cases eg badly corrupted drive, or failed drive. You can often still boot to it even if windows boot is failing.

    I like it as you can boot into it and use its file explorer to easily delete stubborn files or folders.

    One really great feature is if you need to restore an C drive based image on a remote PC, you can run MR in normal windows, and it then boots into the winpe mode automatically to restore to C drive.

    You need the boot entry enabled to do this.

    I am not aware if any of the main MR competitors can do this.
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  2.    28 May 2018 #72

    I will take note of all these answers in relation to Macrium recovery options from boot. Hopefully after not too much longer with Macrium on my test pc I will be able to go install it on the other working pc's.

    I think what we also need to develop is some sort of instinctive avoidance that is, if we suspect that a new piece of software may cause trouble, we can always copy a Macrium image of our C drive onto a blank HDD on another pc and then test it there or maybe even using VirtualBox or equivalent on the same pc for testing. We can probably find out quite soon if the new software is likely to cause trouble...
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  3.    29 May 2018 #73

    Can someone please explain what the Recovery partition is. I didn't include it in today's backup, which is the first on my live system, because it wasn't ticked as default as needed to do a C drive backup. Only the C drive and System Reserved partitions are selected as default. Should I have included the Recovery partition as well?
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  4.    29 May 2018 #74

    If you mean the 550Mb or less partition created by Windows it's used for
    - automated repair
    - Advanced startup options

    It's not essential in normal operation.

    Recovery Partition After Upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7/8
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       29 May 2018 #75

    Some say they always deleted it because they have a thumb or DVD with all they need. Some have had problems not booting after deleting it. Average user would just let it be...it's so small in the big picture. Odd it wasn't default ticked. I included it.

    You can determine what the system thinks it's recovery environment/partition is with the following command. It's points to where Windows would expect to find it's Recovery.

    reagentc /info
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  6.    29 May 2018 #76

    MR Backup, Backup Windows should =>
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    - all ticked.
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  7.    29 May 2018 #77

    Many thanks for all your replies. My last post didn't save... I will run the backup again with the Recovery partition also selected when I get back to my pc later today and check f14tomcat's cmd prompt.
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  8.    29 May 2018 #78

    Finally I have installed Macrium on my main two working pc's. I made external and internal images and verified them.

    Only one pc had the Recovery partition and the other did not (see attached for the one that has this partition). I wonder why as they were both clean installs of Windows 10 Professional x64.

    Is it possible to check these images on another pc with different hardware or will the installation fail?
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  9. Berton's Avatar
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       29 May 2018 #79

    Only one pc had the Recovery partition and the other did not (see attached for the one that has this partition). I wonder why as they were both clean installs of Windows 10 Professional x64.
    I've seen that when using HDDs that have simply been erased and HDDs that had the partitions removed completely using GPARTED. Sometimes the small partitions don't get completely erased, especially with Window's Disk Management. I prefer GPARTED from their bootable CD as it makes the drive as clean as from the manufacturer, only thing I've found that it can't do is fix a bad S.M.A.R.T. function on the drive, just lost a used 500GB drive to that failure, didn't lose any data as I was using it to rehab a Desktop.
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  10.    30 May 2018 #80

    I wiped the HDD with DBAN (showed no errors) before installing Windows 10 as a clean install. I thought that would have rid the HDD of any partitions, hidden or otherwise.

    I thought the Recovery partition may have been something to do with my initial backup using the Windows 10 internal Backup system.

    Chkdsk shows no errors.

    Do you suggest any further tests to see if this is a genuine problem?
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