Windows 10: Why is System Restore not automatically activated as default?

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  1.    27 May 2018 #61

    looked said: View Post
    How does it compare with AOMEI Backupper?
    AOMEI Backupper is a smaller and dedicated backup software for me. The disk clone in Standard (free) edition also does a big favor in migrating data between large capacity external drives.
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  2.    27 May 2018 #62

    Now I need to understand and learn the application a little more and see if I should just use it for big backups before a new build or otherwise.
    - use routinely, maintain your image sets by creating a differential backup periodically, and before a big change. After an upgrade, you may as well create a new base image for C: as so much changes, if the majority of C: is Windows (keep personal data off C:).

    I would like to know how Macrium interacts with restore points in Windows, for example after a Macrium restore does it invalidate existing Windows restore points?

    - simple. If you restore a partition, EVERYTHING on that partition is restored as was. If that partition is C: then restore points must be maintained consistent with the registry and disk content.
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  3.    28 May 2018 #63

    In it's simplest form, MR makes full backup of every bit on a given disk or partition, bit by bit and restores same way so ther's nothing to invalidate or not. Just carbon copy.
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  4.    28 May 2018 #64

    Windows 10 replaced what had been my main operating system for many years, Windows 7, in the last two weeks so this has been an interesting learning curve coupled with a few late nights... I have been forced to take the issue of backing up an operating system more seriously following reinstallation failures of the Windows backup system in Windows 7.

    One of my concerns is that with each new build of Windows 10 something has the potential to go wrong. This is a worry for everyone.

    I am wondering if any member has had experience of this in relation to Macrium:

    - Should I keep automatic updates on or off with Macrium? I can imagine the scenario where a new build of Windows 10 isn't compatible with Macrium and this creates some sort of error.

    - Do you ever get any booting or critical errors because of Macrium?
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  5.    28 May 2018 #65

    Should I keep automatic updates on or off with Macrium? I can imagine the scenario where a new build of Windows 10 isn't compatible with Macrium and this creates some sort of error.
    Not sthg to worry about. MR is regularly updated and well maintained. Should some incompatibility arise an update would be rapidly released. With major build upgrades of MR it's wise to replace any MR boot medium you have.

    with each new build of Windows 10 something has the potential to go wrong.
    - which is a major reason to keep image backups current. Now here lies the problem- if upgrades are automatic (i.e. you have no control) then you can't update your image set, then upgrade, in a controlled manner.

    I can, as I have Win 10 Pro and defer upgrades and have updates set to Notify. For Home users, this is more difficult to manage.

    - Do you ever get any booting or critical errors because of Macrium?
    - Conversely I'm reminded of this:
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect | Windows 10 Tutorials
    Part 2 - Tip:

    Tip OPTIONAL:

    If you want to you can also add Macrium Rescue to Windows boot menu. It is a very practical option to be used when you want to restore an image or reset Windows boot records in case Windows refuses to boot normally.
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  6.    28 May 2018 #66

    meridius said: View Post
    Windows 10 replaced what had been my main operating system for many years, Windows 7, in the last two weeks so this has been an interesting learning curve coupled with a few late nights... I have been forced to take the issue of backing up an operating system more seriously following reinstallation failures of the Windows backup system in Windows 7.

    One of my concerns is that with each new build of Windows 10 something has the potential to go wrong. This is a worry for everyone.

    I am wondering if any member has had experience of this in relation to Macrium:

    - Should I keep automatic updates on or off with Macrium? I can imagine the scenario where a new build of Windows 10 isn't compatible with Macrium and this creates some sort of error.

    - Do you ever get any booting or critical errors because of Macrium?
    There were some problems with MR and updates but only with payed version and in certain scenarios and that has been fixed. I always make just full backups of system disk and never had a problem with booting restored image, even when switching platform or disk itself.. Rescue disk even fixed a problem I had with (dual BOOT) W7 on another HDD that was set to run in AHCI instead of IDE mode. It's quite powerful little utility.
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  7.    28 May 2018 #67

    Many thanks for all this advice.

    I did look at the additional solution of setting up an extra option of adding Macrium to the Windows boot manager and will see what to do in the future.

    My own experience with backups is that in the ideal world a clean install of Windows is better than an upgrade or using an image performance wise. Is that anything to do with the compression of images or fragmentation? Many users do not worry about this but I notice it myself when I have had a nice new operating system and I decide to install new heavy and untested software and sometimes the whole system slows down and lags a little even when the application is disabled in msconfig, unless of course it is completely disabled in services.msc.

    I guess what a backup does is to get you out of trouble in the event of an emergency which can happen at any time e.g. viruses etc.

    I will try to keep away from dual booting for the main os system but for the test system, no problem...

    The one thing I learnt from this process is to chkdsk before testing as this can impact your results. I had probably put a defective HDD to one side and had forgotten to mark it as defective and this impacted my initial results.

    On a separate issue I think Windows 10 is quite a way more advanced than Windows 7. I am sure Microsoft have based some of its ethos on Linux operating systems such as Ubuntu. I would not say however that it necessarily more user friendly than Windows 7 and it actually requires a technical approach to get to the bottom of certain problems like this one which is not for your average non technical user. At the same time privacy is an issue in Windows 10 and one has to switch off unwanted data exposure as much as possible.

    Nevertheless the price of data loss and downtime is heavy. In this strategy I should also backup the data partition but I think this would require buying another spare external HDD with more capacity.

    How effective are partitions for preventing the spread of a virus from the C drive to another partition which holds data?
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  8.    28 May 2018 #68

    Extra option of adding Macrium to the Windows boot manager has one drawback, if that disk dies or gets badly corrupted, you can't BOOT of it and can't restore anything. It's best to make an USB or CD/DVD disk if you have a player. Personally I use few Sd cards and a USB adapter for them. They take very little space. I have all kinds of rescue and other media on them. From MR Rescue disk, thru Windows (Kyhi's) to live Linux or live AV rescue programs.
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       28 May 2018 #69

    CountMike said: View Post
    Extra option of adding Macrium to the Windows boot manager has one drawback, if that disk dies or gets badly corrupted, you can't BOOT of it and can't restore anything
    Exactly, what is the point of adding Macrium to boot manager, when the boot is damaged you cannot restore a backup?
    For everyday use I take advantage of Rollbak RX Home (free) which replaces Windows' system restore and it's 100% better.
    Then I must clone the whole Windows partition including all hardware's drivers with either Macrium Reflect or Aomi Backupper so I have two chances to restore the system.
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  10.    28 May 2018 #70

    Exactly, what is the point of adding Macrium to boot manager, when the boot is damaged you cannot restore a backup?
    Agreed that's only useful where it's a DIFFERENT disk that is to be restored, or you wish to restore C: on an undamaged disk e.g. when trying to repeat some fault finding sequence, say. It's an option to be used by more advanced users as a convenience in certain circumstances.
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