Windows 10: "MS removing some backup tools from future versions of Windows10!"

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  1. Posts : 141
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       05 Feb 2018 #1

    "MS removing some backup tools from future versions of Windows10!"


    according to Leo Notenboom (Ask Leo). Any thoughts?
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  2.    05 Feb 2018 #2

    Hi. Yes, I understand that Backup & Restore will go away, and MS are recommending people use 3rd-party tools for this function. Many of the members here use Macrium Reflect. It offer a free and paid version.
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect Backup Restore Tutorials

    Macrium offers very powerful features, even in its free version.
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       05 Feb 2018 #3

    Taffy078 said: View Post
    ...according to Leo Notenboom (Ask Leo). Any thoughts?
    It has long been known that MS have deprecated their System Image Backup...

    Microsoft said:
    System Image Backup (SIB) Solution
    We recommend that users use full-disk backup solutions from other vendors.
    Features removed or Deprecated in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

    'Ask Leo's agenda seems to be to 'talk up' sales of his book on 'how to back up', in particular he seems to be pushing EaseUS Todo as the 'solution' to use.

    Most here would disagree, recommending Macrium Reflect (free) as the most reliable solution.
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  4.    05 Feb 2018 #4

    Bree said: View Post
    ...
    'Ask Leo's agenda seems to be to 'talk up' sales of his book on 'how to back up', in particular he seems to be pushing EaseUS Todo as the 'solution' to use. ...
    If OP is talking about this article: https://askleo.com/eight-step-back-p...s-built-tools/ , yeah I see he mentions only EaseUS Todo. Don't know why there's no mention of Macrium as, to be fair, he also has an ebook on using Macrium.

    Of course, we have plenty of resources here and at Macrium for understanding its use but I guess you never know what format or presentation a particular person prefers.
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  5. Posts : 141
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       05 Feb 2018 #5

    Thanks for these informative responses. This was from a Best of Ask Leo article and came in an email notification.
    The full article is here
    https://askleo.com/is_an_online_back...uOjn.jLaPCj5bL

    I've no idea why the every time I've tried to use the link, it duplicates it (or perhaps that's just how it appear before I post this.

    One section is headed "Is an online backup a good idea?" and he says "In my opinion, yes, but only as part of a larger back-up strategy. Start with a periodic full image backup of your computer. "

    In the Q&A he was asked if he recommends a particular backup s/w for doing a complete image backup; he said Macrium Reflect and EaseUS Todo.

    My PC was trashed by a flawed Fall Creators last October (described by an MSN-badged employee as looking like a test version!) I have Macrium Free but it didn't work - I've only recent found out it's because I didn't install another (shorter) App first, so I'll be getting that resolved soonest.

    After having to do a Clean Install, my way forward was because I'd listened to an expert in MSComm who keeps pushing "File History". I've still not found everything as my only process is to install from my USB File History when I realise a file or folder is missing.

    In my experience, any article about the various ways to save stuff before/install it after a BSOD must tell users that they have to have a second PC/laptop, otherwise they won't be able to ask for help. I might be wrong though!

    Thanks for your thoughts and efforts. Much appreciated.
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  6.    05 Feb 2018 #6

    Backup and Restore was slow and infuriating to use. They had no intention of improving it, so no problem with it going away.

    Wish they would restore Previous Versions, now File History to the way it worked in Windows 7. Adding a feature like Synctoy would also be nice.
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  7.    05 Feb 2018 #7

    Hi there

    While there are other options - I would tend to think the majority of users on this board use Free Macrium and are very happy with it. If you need extra facilities / features - most really don't -- then the Free version is fine -- and you can also make a bootable version too.

    There are other suppliers available but reading the forums a lot I would suggest that Free Macrium is by far the most popular choice for FREE software. The paid version also has a load of useful stuff too but a lot of users here won't need that.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8.    05 Feb 2018 #8

    vram said: View Post
    Backup and Restore was slow and infuriating to use. They had no intention of improving it, so no problem with it going away.

    Wish they would restore Previous Versions, now File History to the way it worked in Windows 7. Adding a feature like Synctoy would also be nice.
    Agreed. Robocopy is too complicated for many.
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  9. Posts : 141
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       06 Feb 2018 #9

    Would anyone here mind if I now pose the same question in Microsoft Community? Obviously I wouldn't refer to/quote from this but I'm interested in comparing the reactions.
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  10.    06 Feb 2018 #10

    My vote would be for Macrium Reflect. Windows backup / restore has never been trust worthy for a very long time. :)
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