Windows 10: If you turn off Real-Time Protection how long before "it turns back on

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  1. Posts : 984
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       23 Dec 2017 #11

    Okay, I'm simple so I have a simple question.

    Why would one, anyone want to turn off Real Time Protection?

    I personally scan everything I download with 3 security programs.
    I try to never under estimate the bad guys.
    I also don't know how long it would take before Defender turns it's self back on.

    Jack
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  2. Posts : 713
    Windows 10
       23 Dec 2017 #12

    Jacob Klein said: View Post
    Can we please get an answer to the question:
    What is the duration of a short time?
    ... as it pertains to Windows Defenders "Real-time protection" message?
    It won't be anything as simple as a set time. You can imagine certain User actions, Windows actions, Application actions etc, etc triggering it back on again.
    Details of such things are useful to the bad boys.
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  3.    23 Dec 2017 #13

    Jacob Klein said: View Post
    Can we please get an answer to the question:
    What is the duration of a short time?
    ... as it pertains to Windows Defenders "Real-time protection" message?
    If you turn Windows defender off via Settings, WD will turn itself back to on when you reboot the computer.

    If you just wanted to know, that's the answer.

    If you want to really turn off WD and keep it off for good, read the tutorial below. I used Option 2.
    Turn On or Off Windows Defender in Windows 10 Security System Tutorials

    Bo
    Last edited by bo elam; 23 Dec 2017 at 03:58.
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  4.    23 Dec 2017 #14

    Layback Bear said: View Post
    Okay, I'm simple so I have a simple question.

    Why would one, anyone want to turn off Real Time Protection?

    I personally scan everything I download with 3 security programs.
    I try to never under estimate the bad guys.
    I also don't know how long it would take before Defender turns it's self back on.

    Jack
    I give you a simple answer to your simple question. I don't use antiviruses (since 2010) or run scans. Why? because I found a more reliable way for protecting myself that doesn't depend on virus signatures. Protection that dont require updates. It protects you against new viruses, zero day threats. Antivirus by nature are always behind. The malware gets released, and the signatures comes later. If you depend on antiviruses, you ll get infected. Its just a matter of when. I know it seems strange and unreasonable to you but if you get into it, you discover technologies that are completely different than antiviruses, and as you test them over a long period of time, you become confident as time passes by and you see that it works. You dont get infected anymore. I havent had an infection since late 2008.

    When I depended on antiviruses for protection, I used to spend hours and hours scanning with this program and that program all the time and even so, I always got 1 or 2 infections a year, every year. That cycle came to an end the day I moved on from antiviruses and found something better. You have to discover it yourself, I cant tell you what to do, it wouldnt work that way. Now, I cant get infected even if I tried. That is despite visiting same sites as I used to visit when I used to get infected, doing same searches, basically same browsing behavior. Not getting infected becomes second nature.

    Bo
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  5.    23 Dec 2017 #15

    Please UpVote this feedback item, if you believe Microsoft should clarify this a bit:
    https://aka.ms/Dabwz0

    LMiller7 said: View Post
    To a computer user this doesn't really matter. Just keep real time protection enabled and it isn't an issue.
    Thanks for your reply.

    I understand what you're saying - It's meant to be left on and forgotten, so leave it on. I also understand you are trying to help, and I appreciate that, thank you.

    But I'm not really interested in bat files or workarounds to permanently disable it.
    I still require an answer to the question.

    Layback Bear said: View Post
    Okay, I'm simple so I have a simple question.
    Why would one, anyone want to turn off Real Time Protection?
    For several, Real-time protection is currently causing an issue, where the only way to play Hearthstone, is to disable Real-time protection, in Insider Build 17063. That is why the question matters to me so much - will it turn back on while I'm gaming? I'm sure the original poster had some other legitimate reason too, to temporarily disable it, and would prefer to use the standard in-UI knob to do it. We just want more info on that "short amount of time" vagueness.

    bo elam said: View Post
    If you turn Windows defender off via Settings, WD will turn itself back to on when you reboot the computer.
    If you just wanted to know, that's the answer.
    Thank you! Did you find any documentation to support that, or is it just based on personal testing/evidence?

    Jacob
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  6.    23 Dec 2017 #16

    xXWhackerXx said: View Post
    LMiller7 i stand by what i said. not going to debate it.
    You cannot debate it because you have no sound or rational basis to support what is bad practice - your only argument being is you have never been infected.

    That is like saying you have crossed road 100 times without looking either way, so it is always safe for anybody.

    Just because you have been lucky is no excuse for dishing out BAD advice.
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  7.    23 Dec 2017 #17

    @jakob Klein
    I can understand your desire to know this but we have to face reality. Only Microsoft can answer your question and they will not, and for some good and sound reasons they should not. The reasons have been well covered in this thread and I will not repeat them.
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  •    23 Dec 2017 #18

    I have asked Microsoft, in the Feedback Hub item, regardless of your claim of reasons. Thank you.
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  • Posts : 984
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       23 Dec 2017 #19

    I try to remember that everybody isn't as knowledgeable as those that don't use well established basic security programs.
    Microsoft doesn't create operating systems just for the few, nor does anybody else.
    Microsoft has 'Billions' using their operating system. So having proper, what I call basic security programs running should be a normal thing to do.
    Having said that, no programs are 100%. The owner/operator have to keep their brain updated for proper security to have a chance.
    Hell people are still opening bad emails that for 15 years or longer have been warned not to.

    I'm no gamer but if I was and a game was being blocked by Defender I would contact the owner or site I got the game from and report the problem. I would also report the game problem to whom ever created the game.
    It could be a false positive. The creator of the game should be able to work with Microsoft to get things corrected.

    It's hard for me to believe that hundreds of millions of game players are shutting off their security to play games.
    This does not compute in my 3 brain cells.

    Of course, if it's your computer one can do as one cares to do.

    Jack
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  •    23 Dec 2017 #20

    I'll repeat myself: For several, Real-time protection is currently causing an issue, where the only way to play Hearthstone, is to disable Real-time protection, in Insider Build 17063.

    The issue surfaced 2 days ago. It's unclear whether there is an issue with Windows Defender in that Insider build, or if Hearthstone is doing something they shouldn't when performing the networking handshakes on load. I have notified both parties.

    What is clear, is that Microsoft could be clearer with their vagueness. Clear?
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