1.    30 Sep 2017 #1
    Join Date : Sep 2017
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    Puppy linux, win X

    Win 10 firewall, why can I not delete/disable windows apps as admin ?


    Dear Forum.
    I thought I was safe by managing the windows firewall and changing all apps to only use private network and under advanced settings deactivate EVERYTHING and create my own rules for opera web browser and clamwin, nothing else is allowed pass through the firewall. Of course all windows updates was shut off.

    Computer has been working perfect for more than two years when somehow windows update succeeded installing an update messing up my computer. Computer is slowly restored to prevoius state but now I find the Bing, HP printer and Microsoft office viruses has opened up rules in my firewall without notifying me. Iam allowed as admin changing these apps using private or guest network but thats all, I want to remove them but remove button is greyed out allthough checkbox ticked and admin rights.

    Instead of surpressing the plague I want to remove these apps fully for security. For some strange reason Iam NOT allowed removing these entries in the firewall applist so perhaps it is possible removing via linux or registry hacking ?

    If anyone can tip me how windows update managed downloading an update allthough windows update was disabled Im thankful for tips closing that possibility. As long as my computer is working I do not update and the clamwin handles all viruses, as clamwin is non-profit open source there is no interest targeting new viruses for my anti-virus selling new subscriptions as with fraud softwares such as AVG, McAffee etc.
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  2.    30 Sep 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
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    If anyone can tip me how windows update managed downloading an update although windows update was disabled
    That depends how you disabled it and perhaps what has happened subsequently.

    For example, if you set your connections to metered, MS stated they might override that for 'critical' updates.

    I could not recommend disabling updates as a strategy, unless you know your computer is incapable of being updated in some respect - esp. drivers in some cases- for compatibility reasons.

    I make no comment on other matters.
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  3.    01 Oct 2017 #3
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,871
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    Quote Originally Posted by pema View Post
    If anyone can tip me how windows update managed downloading an update allthough windows update was disabled Im thankful for tips closing that possibility.
    I "cripple" Windows update by disabling network services like "Network List Service". Windows will fail to check for updates and that is the end of it. Note, that this service is needed to manage network connections.
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  4.    02 Oct 2017 #4
    Join Date : Sep 2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    That depends how you disabled it and perhaps what has happened subsequently.
    Win update is disabled via administration tools/services/windows update/properties, disable.
    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    For example, if you set your connections to metered, MS stated they might override that for 'critical' updates.
    As a "metered connection" not is guaranteeing updates is avoided I continue searching.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    I could not recommend disabling updates as a strategy, unless you know your computer is incapable of being updated in some respect - esp. drivers in some cases- for compatibility reasons.
    Im seeing my computer as a tool equal to a hammer or a screwdriver. The tool must be in a known state for fullfilling its duty to best efficiency when needed. Any changes to the state of the tool impair the usage of the tool. I will never let my hammer decide which nails will be hammered and which not, such a hammer is immediately disposed. My backup system has been working flawless for several years but now reality struck me in the latest KB sent out 2017-09-25.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    I make no comment on other matters.
    Please do. Im always on the lookout for better ideas than my capabilities.

    If someone knows where in the system the actual update script is located I could swiflty rename via linux as with the bootup viruses in win xp in the good ol days =0) Kindly, pema.
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  5.    02 Oct 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    I "cripple" Windows update by disabling network services like "Network List Service". Windows will fail to check for updates and that is the end of it. Note, that this service is needed to manage network connections.
    How may that affect my network connections that is needed ? Will this impair my possibility connecting the windows 10 installation to guest networks at clients ?

    Kindly Pema.
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