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  1.    26 Jul 2017 #1
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Bristol
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    Windows 10 32 Bit

    Windows Defender - is it THAT good?


    Until fairly recently, I have always used a third party AV program (have used both free and paid for programs)
    In addition I have used malwarebytes free, and the occasional use of ADWCleaner.

    Since going entirely to Windows defender, I have never had a report of malware or PUP's etc from the two additional items.
    Has the exclusive use of defender really contributed to this degree, OR has Defender somehow negated the other two programs? Malwarebytes free does not of course operate in real time.
    Another noted change is the ease in which I can use online banking, whereas with a third party program, I ran into frequent difficulties.
    Would be interested in others experiences of this 'possible' success of Defender.
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  2.    26 Jul 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2017
    Posts : 6
    Windows 10

    Windows Defender + Malwarebyte Antimalware = Protected

    It all depends on your surfing habit. Why are you using internet for? What kinds of websites you visit ? What types of files you download?

    In my case Windows Dedender is doing a wonderful job of detecting as well as taking or notifying the recommended action. No need to run realtime protection of Malwarebyte Antimalware , just use as a free version. Below are the images of Windows Defender Full History , or simplt install the recently launched kaspersky free antivirus and forget everything.
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  3.    26 Jul 2017 #3
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,488
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    This recent thread is relevant.
    German Lab AV-TEST Ratings

    I use just Defender, with PUA (aka PUP) detection enabled...
    Enable or Disable Windows Defender PUA Protection in Windows 10
    ..and Enable Windows Defender Block at First Sight in Windows 10

    Defender's PUA detection works (even on Home), as I reported here (and added more details in subsequent posts).
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  4.    26 Jul 2017 #4
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Bristol
    Posts : 125
    Windows 10 32 Bit
    Thread Starter

    Thank for the response guys.
    I was very interested to see xpktv's history log - so looked for mine...Nothing Showing!
    I then checked three other W10 machines that I use, again Nothing. " 2 are on Windows 10 32 bit - the other 2 on 64 bit. Any ideas guys why this info is missing?
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  5.    26 Jul 2017 #5
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,488
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Skofab View Post
    I was very interested to see xpktv's history log - so looked for mine...Nothing Showing! ... Any ideas guys why this info is missing?
    Because you don't swim in shark-infested waters like xpktv

    Mine was empty too, until I deliberately tested it just now...

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    You can generate the EICAR test file by following the instruction here, if you like.
    http://www.eicar.org/86-0-Intended-use.html
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  6.    26 Jul 2017 #6
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Bristol
    Posts : 125
    Windows 10 32 Bit
    Thread Starter

    Thanks Bree - had totally forgotten the eicar aspect.
    I ran, and sure enough Defender immediately stepped in and the log recorded the event.

    On the basis that pre Defender 3rd party AV's allowed many little pup's etc to show, and . I haven't changed my internet habits at all - I can only assume that Defender IS 'doing the business very efficiently'.
    Thanks guys for your time and responses
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  7.    26 Jul 2017 #7
    Join Date : Jul 2017
    Posts : 6
    Windows 10

    [QUOTE=Bree;1091208]Because you don't swim in shark-infested waters like xpktv .

    Very funny well I love to do little bit of that and a bit of this but atleast got to know that the original Windows Defender (Spyware) has evolved to give able protection to users and rest depends on the users.


    Damm !!! Mods kindly remove the character limitations . What else do you want me to write
    Last edited by xpktv2000; 26 Jul 2017 at 14:05. Reason: Removing unnecessary item
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  8.    26 Jul 2017 #8
    Join Date : Jan 2016
    Gibraltar
    Posts : 372
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 1709 16299.19

    Only Thing that i'm not sure on with Defender myself, If I do enable it and stop using 3rd party av, what if a program needs Real Time Protection turned off once Block at First sight enabled, I got one game that requires it off on clean installs, then turned back on after the game files excluded after exiting it after first run to build inventory cache, and when the program updates requires the same.


    Machine also felt a little slow last time I ran Defender on this 8 Core AMD FX system, unless it was issues with Avast left overs, and maybe i'll just wait to try it again til after clean install of Fall Creators update
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  9.    27 Jul 2017 #9
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    UK
    Posts : 2,081
    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bree View Post
    Because you don't swim in shark-infested waters like xpktv

    Mine was empty too, until I deliberately tested it just now...

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    You can generate the EICAR test file by following the instruction here, if you like.
    http://www.eicar.org/86-0-Intended-use.html
    I have the AU, Kaspersky anti-virus and Defender limited periodic scanning enabled. I'm wondering why I don't see that Defender full history report, not even an empty report.
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  10.    27 Jul 2017 #10
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,427
    W10 Insider + Linux
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