Windows 10: Win 10 Creators Build Windows Defender vs 3rd Party Antivirus/Antimal

View Poll Results: What antivirus/antimalware program would you recommend?

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  • Windows 10 Creators Update - Windows Defender

    9 64.29%
  • Symantec/Norton Internet Security

    3 21.43%
  • Kaspersky Internet Security

    0 0%
  • BitDefender

    0 0%
  • Other

    2 14.29%
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  1.    6 Days Ago #1

    Win 10 Creators Build Windows Defender vs 3rd Party Antivirus/Antimal


    How many of you solely use Windows Defender? How many use a third-party app?

    I've installed Kaspersky Internet Security 2017, but I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to renew. The Creators Update of Windows 10 seems to have a better antivirus/antimalware, but I don't think it's completely on-part with Kaspersky, Norton, BitDefender, etc.

    I don't surf dubious websites or download pirated software, but I have a need for high security. I use my laptop for Dragon to dictate patient records and incorporate them into Epic.

    Would you guys think Windows Defender is enough, or would you stay with Kaspersky? I haven't noticed a performance hit.
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  2. Posts : 139
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       6 Days Ago #2

    I stopped considering other solutions when Windows defender improved significantly earlier this year.

    See https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/ for their latest comparison. If you click on the sideways arrow on the right of the Windows defender entry you will see that where it falls down [relatively] is in higher than average loading of application installations and starts [that's the Performance score]. Its level of protection is as good as almost all of them [as you'll see in the Protection score].

    Denis
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  3.    6 Days Ago #3

    Thanks for the link Try3, but it looks like Windows Defender has a bigger performance hit than Kaspersky.
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  4. Posts : 139
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       6 Days Ago #4

    Eric,

    Windows defender has slower downloads, application installations & application starts. I have experimented with Norton, Bitdefender, Kaspersky, McAfee over the last year or so. I could not, in practice, see any performance differences when using the computer.

    As for their relative Protection, Windows defender has only recently entered the top of the range whereas Kaspersky has routinely been achieving 99.8%+ for ages.

    Denis
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  5.    6 Days Ago #5

    ericnixmd said: View Post
    How many of you solely use Windows Defender? How many use a third-party app?

    I've installed Kaspersky Internet Security 2017, but I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to renew. The Creators Update of Windows 10 seems to have a better antivirus/antimalware, but I don't think it's completely on-part with Kaspersky, Norton, BitDefender, etc.

    I don't surf dubious websites or download pirated software, but I have a need for high security. I use my laptop for Dragon to dictate patient records and incorporate them into Epic.

    Would you guys think Windows Defender is enough, or would you stay with Kaspersky? I haven't noticed a performance hit.
    If you need high security, you should be using encryption. No AV package protects against a dodgy link (many fakes that look genuine) or a new unknown threat.

    Also, you should have a robust backup strategy in case pc does get attacked.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  6. Posts : 1,655
    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)
       6 Days Ago #6

    I have Kaspersky antivirus provided free by my bank. I still have concerns about the security of their software due to Kaspersky being Russian. I guess whether you are more worried by vulnerabilities provide by spying by the NSA or FSB. I might just use Defender having seen the good scores in the link posted above.
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  7. Posts : 11,934
    W10Prox64
       4 Days Ago #7

    cereberus said: View Post
    If you need high security, you should be using encryption. No AV package protects against a dodgy link (many fakes that look genuine) or a new unknown threat.

    Also, you should have a robust backup strategy in case pc does get attacked.
    Agree with that one!
    If using Windows Defender, I would recommend adding the paid version of Malwarebytes Antimalware.
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  8.    4 Days Ago #8

    Thanks to all for the replies. I have encryption of my SSD enabled through Dell's Data Protection Program. The computer uses a password for initial boot and then fingerprint for access to locked screen/screen saver etc. The laptop came with a FIPS-compliant fingerprint scanner and smartcard reader.

    I use OpenVPN for an encryption to my network at home anytime I'm on public wifi. I have a pfSense server that I use solely for Snort and as an OpenVPN server.

    I definitely try to keep everything as secure as possible, but I realize nothing is 100%. (I even use a lock to keep my laptop from being stolen at work when people are walking the hallways of the ER -- it won't prevent someone from cutting the cable, but it helps prevent the passerby from quickly snatching it).

    It seems like most people prefer Windows Defender over other antivirus programs. I may not renew my Kaspersky and just use it. The websites I visit with my work laptop are almost always work-related (UpToDate, ePocrates, PerfectServe, Georgia Prescription Drug Monitoring Program, etc.).

    There have been a couple of compromises of security in physician offices lately and I definitely don't want to be in the news as one of them.
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  9. Posts : 2,114
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       4 Days Ago #9

    The above AV TEST results will be irrelevant when the Creator Autumn/Fall update is released.
    Improvements to Defender will include WDAG Application Guard plus Exploit Protection.
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  10. Posts : 257
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 1703 15063.296
       4 Days Ago #10

    Have 1 System right now using Windows Defender with Block at First Sight Enabled and Pua protection guess I'm as safe as when I used to use Avast, Cannot afford Paid version of Malwarebytes though, but I guess if I remember to do weekly scans with the Free Malwarebytes I should be ok.

    Rest of the Household Systems are running Avast latest 2017 version
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