Windows 10: Suggestions for a good Anti-Malware Software (Running Insider Preview)


  1. Posts : 87
    Windows 10 Insider Build / Ubuntu 16.10
       05 Dec 2016 #1

    Suggestions for a good Anti-Malware Software (Running Insider Preview)


    As some of you may know, MBAM crashes when starting a scan on Insider Preview. Basically it BSODs every time.

    Any other suggestions for a good antimalware software? I got Defender + CryptoPrevent + MBAE.
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  2. Posts : 824
    Win10/64 Pro 1511 (and 2 Win 7/64 Ult & Pro systems)
       05 Dec 2016 #2

    Hi:

    AFAIK, this issue has been fixed with the current BETA of MB3.
    (Instability is to be expected when one runs BETA software, whether it's Win10 Insider or any other beta application.)

    It is a BETA product, but if you wish to try it, there's more information here:
    Malwarebytes 3.0 Public Beta Number 3 - Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Malwarebytes Forums
    Announcing Beta of Malwarebytes 3.0, a Next-Generation Antivirus Replacement - Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Malwarebytes Forums
    Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Other FAQs - Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Malwarebytes Forums

    If you have a valid license for MBAM2, you can upgrade to the new BETA now.
    Or, you can wait to be upgraded automatically when MB3 ships in final, public release build.

    AFAIK, the only other robust, real-time anti-malware is Emsisoft Anti-Malware.
    However, it is both a fully flagged AV + anti-malware (even though it is called "anti-malware").
    Emsisoft has been clear that it ought not to be run alongside another full AV.
    So, you would need to disable Windows Defender (if EAM does not automatically do so when you install it).
    Also, like MBAM Premium, it is a paid program.

    Finally, CryptoPrevent was/is an excellent tool for some earlier types of ransomware. I'm not sure if it still provides the same level of protection for today's variants. FWIW, MB3 incorporates anti-ransomware technology. I cannot speak to any sort of comparison between the two. I merely mention it because the addition of anti-ransomware into the Malwarebytes program is new.

    HTH,

    MM
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  3. Posts : 87
    Windows 10 Insider Build / Ubuntu 16.10
    Thread Starter
       05 Dec 2016 #3

    MoxieMomma said: View Post
    Hi:

    AFAIK, this issue has been fixed with the current BETA of MB3.
    (Instability is to be expected when one runs BETA software, whether it's Win10 Insider or any other beta application.)

    It is a BETA product, but if you wish to try it, there's more information here:
    Malwarebytes 3.0 Public Beta Number 3 - Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Malwarebytes Forums
    Announcing Beta of Malwarebytes 3.0, a Next-Generation Antivirus Replacement - Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Malwarebytes Forums
    Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Other FAQs - Malwarebytes 3.0 Beta - Malwarebytes Forums

    If you have a valid license for MBAM2, you can upgrade to the new BETA now.
    Or, you can wait to be upgraded automatically when MB3 ships in final, public release build.

    AFAIK, the only other robust, real-time anti-malware is Emsisoft Anti-Malware.
    However, it is both a fully flagged AV + anti-malware (even though it is called "anti-malware").
    Emsisoft has been clear that it ought not to be run alongside another full AV.
    So, you would need to disable Windows Defender (if EAM does not automatically do so when you install it).
    Also, like MBAM Premium, it is a paid program.

    Finally, CryptoPrevent was/is an excellent tool for some earlier types of ransomware. I'm not sure if it still provides the same level of protection for today's variants. FWIW, MB3 incorporates anti-ransomware technology. I cannot speak to any sort of comparison between the two. I merely mention it because the addition of anti-ransomware into the Malwarebytes program is new.

    HTH,

    MM
    Thank you for the prompt answer. My only issue is that I can't pay for license for the moment due to some issues I got with my credit card. With this being said, BETA 3 doesn't offer me any kind of protection against exploits or ransomware.

    Do you have any other combination of free software?
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  4.    05 Dec 2016 #4

    Emsisoft Anti-Malware [which includes anti-virus] can be tried for 30 days before either paying for it, or, letting it revert to on-demand scan and manual update only. I might be wrong about the newest versions, if so, somebody let me know, thanks!
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  5. Posts : 824
    Win10/64 Pro 1511 (and 2 Win 7/64 Ult & Pro systems)
       05 Dec 2016 #5

    doriandiaconu said: View Post
    Thank you for the prompt answer. My only issue is that I can't pay for license for the moment due to some issues I got with my credit card. With this being said, BETA 3 doesn't offer me any kind of protection against exploits or ransomware.
    Actually MB3 PREMIUM provides real-time anti-malware, anti-exploit, anti-ransomware, malicious website blocking and all the previous features of MBAM Premium, plus the new features.

    Real-time protection never was a feature of MBAM Free and it will not be a feature of MB3 Free.
    Real-time protection requires a paid license.

    Ditto for EAM.

    Do you have any other combination of free software?
    Nope. The robust anti-malware programs are all paid.

    Having said that, at least for now, MBAE Free (Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit Free) is still available.
    It does provide real-time AE protection for most popular browsers and some plug-ins.
    MBAE Premium can ALSO be configured to shield any other internet-facing application.
    I do not know if it will remain available (Free or Premium) as a standalone product.
    But it is still available and works well.
    (The other real-time AE product, HitmanProAlert (HMPA) is paid.)

    Likewise, MBARW-BETA (Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware BETA) is still available for free.
    However, once MB3 launches, they have said that this product will also cease to exist as a standalone product.

    Sorry -- your original question was about stability/BSOD/compatibility.
    I did not realize cost was an issue.

    But, as a general rule, development and support of good security PROTECTION software (as opposed to second-opinion manual removal tools) costs money. It works out to pennies a day and sure seems worthwhile and cheaper than trying to recover from a major malware mishap.

    But each user must choose what works best for his/her system and circumstances.
    (Along with robust/frequent backups/images and safe computing practices.)

    Cheers,
    MM
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  6. Posts : 824
    Win10/64 Pro 1511 (and 2 Win 7/64 Ult & Pro systems)
       05 Dec 2016 #6

    UPDATE ("Clarification" would be an overstatement):

    According to this post earlier today at the MB3-BETA forum (by a Malwarebytes Team Member):

    the Free version of all 3 products will still be available.
    That refers to MBAM Free (which will now be called MB3 Free), MBAE Free and MBARW (Beta? Free?).

    That is different information from what was reported previously.
    They had said that MBARW would not be a standalone once it was rolled into MB3.
    But I suppose policies are subject to change, as the company sees fit.

    They have maintained MBAR-BETA (Malwarebytes Anti-Rootkit BETA) as a standalone for some time, even though the technology was rolled into MBAM a long while ago.
    So there is a precedent.
    It's not clear if the standalone MBARW-BETA will follow a similar pattern to stay in perpetual BETA, or whether it will be developed to a "release" version (MBARW-Free).

    As for MBAE, at least for now, earlier assurances that MBAE Free would remain available as a standalone seem to hold.
    The fate of standalone MBAE Premium is unclear, once the AE technology is rolled into MB3.

    Bottom line for today:
    They say that MB3 Free** (replacing MBAM Free**), MBAE Free and MBARW-Beta (or Free?) will still be offered.
    What happens tomorrow? I have no idea.

    Clear as mud?
    Same here.
    Alas, the company has been neither clear or consistent in their messaging & explanations.
    So this is offered "as is", subject to change at any moment.

    Cheers,
    MM

    **Neither MBAM Free nor MB3 Free provides real-time anti-malware protection. They are only manual scanners. Real-time anti-malware protection will require a paid license, as always and as consistent with similar, competitive products.
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