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  1.    15 Jul 2016 #21
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    Thanks everyone. I decided to try Windows Defender + MBAM Pro + MBAE to see how it's going.
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  2.    29 Oct 2016 #22
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    I just bought a new ASUS, 15.6 Display, Intel i7, 3 days ago. I had Defender on and it did not catch 11 Pups that Free Malwarebyte picked up and disposed. Eight of the pups were from yahoo and the other 3 from Microsoft sites. I am going to run it this way for a week or so with Defender turned on.

    I do have 3 subscriptions with Webroot and might transfer one of them over to this new ASUS, which is now my main computer. With With Webroot on the other PC's, it was fabulous. I'd run MWB every so often on the old main computer and found that Webroot took care of everything. I'd run MWB and nothing was left for it to do anything.

    Just an interesting observation with just Defender. Anyway, I will keep Defender running on my new Main computer for a bit and see what Defender will or will not detect. I have a feeling, I will have to put Webroot on my new computer.
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  3.    31 Oct 2016 #23
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    I dont want to cause any flam but I just wonder why so many people trust defender. Even microsoft recommends 3rd party antivirus programs and was doing so proactively for a quite a long time - see here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rs-for-windows

    and besides that, if you compare defender with other antivirus program it is not really a great security product as it protects your PC only "offline" - when malicious files are executed.
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  4.    01 Nov 2016 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by licrodrefr View Post
    I dont want to cause any flam but I just wonder why so many people trust defender. Even microsoft recommends 3rd party antivirus programs and was doing so proactively for a quite a long time - see here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rs-for-windows

    and besides that, if you compare defender with other antivirus program it is not really a great security product as it protects your PC only "offline" - when malicious files are executed.
    Windows Defender has come A LONG WAY since its former MSE days. On w10 it's quite a capable AV and, it also protects you real-time and it even has got cloud support. I have tried myself a lot of different AV programs under W10 and I usually recommend sticking to WD + additional protection layers + a good dose of common sense. Your mileage may vary of course.
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  5.    01 Nov 2016 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by licrodrefr View Post
    I dont want to cause any flam but I just wonder why so many people trust defender. Even microsoft recommends 3rd party antivirus programs and was doing so proactively for a quite a long time - see here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rs-for-windows

    and besides that, if you compare defender with other antivirus program it is not really a great security product as it protects your PC only "offline" - when malicious files are executed.
    My experience using Defender has been nothing but positive. I haven't had my PC receive a virus in years. But I bet that's mostly due to the sites I browse and the software I use/install., No AV is perfect and the best one is still the one between your ears.
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  6.    01 Nov 2016 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teetertotter View Post
    I just bought a new ASUS, 15.6 Display, Intel i7, 3 days ago. I had Defender on and it did not catch 11 Pups that Free Malwarebyte picked up and disposed. Eight of the pups were from yahoo and the other 3 from Microsoft sites. I am going to run it this way for a week or so with Defender turned on.

    I do have 3 subscriptions with Webroot and might transfer one of them over to this new ASUS, which is now my main computer. With With Webroot on the other PC's, it was fabulous. I'd run MWB every so often on the old main computer and found that Webroot took care of everything. I'd run MWB and nothing was left for it to do anything.

    Just an interesting observation with just Defender. Anyway, I will keep Defender running on my new Main computer for a bit and see what Defender will or will not detect. I have a feeling, I will have to put Webroot on my new computer.
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    To update: When I ran MB and WD, it was AFTER I updated the OS to 1607 and checked my Yahoo e mail and went to MS website that MB picked up on the 11 PUPs. Yesterday, after going to my yahoo email and MS website and running MB again, there were no pups detected. My new ASUS F556 is going into its 5 day of operation.

    I will let Defender do its thing as stated before for a month or so and see if I have to renew Webroot for another year on the 3 pc's @$50 for all three. The other 2 pc's don't get used that much and Defender would probably be just fine.

    Edited: bunny j: Thank you for your input!
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  7.    01 Nov 2016 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by licrodrefr View Post
    I dont want to cause any flam but I just wonder why so many people trust defender.
    I wonder that too. In every test out there, WD always ends up as the last. Even in the test of weeks old malware, where AV vendors share their databases, every AV got 99,99%, but WD got only 99,00%, because as always, MS lacks in response time, which is crucial. No AV can detect everything, but with WD you can be 100% sure, that it will detect the least.
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  8.    01 Nov 2016 #28
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    Nashville, TN
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    Quote Originally Posted by licrodrefr View Post
    I dont want to cause any flam but I just wonder why so many people trust defender. Even microsoft recommends 3rd party antivirus programs and was doing so proactively for a quite a long time - see here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rs-for-windows

    and besides that, if you compare defender with other antivirus program it is not really a great security product as it protects your PC only "offline" - when malicious files are executed.
    Where exactly, on that page are they "recommending" to use a third party product? They're just saying that if you are going to use a third party product, then you should choose a legitimate one (not a fake one) and give you the resources to identify good from bad.
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  9.    01 Nov 2016 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    I wonder that too. In every test out there, WD always ends up as the last. Even in the test of weeks old malware, where AV vendors share their databases, every AV got 99,99%, but WD got only 99,00%, because as always, MS lacks in response time, which is crucial. No AV can detect everything, but with WD you can be 100% sure, that it will detect the least.
    First, no. Defender is never "last", although it does come out on the lower side of things. For instance in the August 2016 AV-TEST Defender came out pretty high in performance, as well as accuracy. However, it came out pretty low on the 0-day tests, but pretty high on the widespread tests (99.8%)

    Test Microsoft Windows Defender 4.8 for Windows 10 (161447) | AV-TEST

    But even that "protection" rating should be taken with a huge grain of salt. For instance, Kapersky gets a very high rating, but they also cheat. They've been caught actually creating benign viruses that are designed to exploit areas that their competitors are weak in, thus giving them a much higher "detection" rate for these viruses because they wrote them!
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  10.    17 Nov 2016 #30
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    'I have been using Windows Defender and Windows Firewall for more than a year, during which my computer has been safe.'

    I said the above on another forum, where a veteran member criticized me for saying so.
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