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Ahhh. I was under the impression that the business software was a separate software, not the consumer version of MB.
Ahhh. I was under the impression that the business software was a separate software, not the consumer version of MB.
Hi there
I question the usefulness of these sorts of programs any more on Home / non Work type computers -- these 3rd party AV tools don't bring anything to the table any more => WD is perfectly reliable these days and as it's based on the very robust security built into Ms's AZURE Cloud servers you can't argue about the provenance of it any more. If you host web sites, commercial sites, or run businesses then that's a totally different ballgame.
3rd party AV software on Home computers just gets in the way - and if it's not free then its just money down the drain -- by some more RAM or an SSD instead !!!.
Some people still install these things "for peace of mind" -- OK that's fine as you can't put a price on that - but don't kid yourselves that it is affording you extra protection that you wouldn't have got from the standard WD software. (And it does have perfectly good real time protection in it too -- lest detractors of WD forget !!!).
Cheers
jimbo
First off, let me say that I am not trying to illegitimize your opinion. You're entitled to it, and with your level of expertise as a resident geek here and other forums, it's easy to see why you can have that opinion. And I'm one of those that will routinely not run anything besides Defender in my own machines, also. More on that later.
But not everyone has the skills you have - and Defender is not that good. Bear with me here.
For one thing, Defender doesn't maintain any sort of web page protection OOB. For another, default installations of Windows 10 don't enable Defender browser guard, the sandbox, or other features that can help mitigate so-called drive-by attacks from malicious actors masquerading as legitimate advertising banners and such on 'normal', OK sites.
I'm not knocking Defender - but it DOES have its limitations. As does every other anti-malware software out there. There is no 'perfect' solution - because if it is digital, it CAN be hacked.
Now, a single-layered approach is never as good an idea as a multi-layered approach when it comes to computer and electronic device security. Multi-layered security is always better - having second (and additional, even) layers as a backup will increase both your detection and prevention rates (unless your second layer is worthless, of course - I'm assuming the use of a reputable product to back up Defender, or to use as a primary product with Defender being the backup, not some fake product made by the very same malicious actors trying to get into people's systems).
For advanced geeks like you and me, a multi-layered approach is something we already do on our own, with various hardware (like home brewed routers / Pi-Hole security appliances, etc.) and other software (as in non-anti-malware products - think browser addons to block ads, NoScript, UBlock, etc.) to protect ourselves online. The average user, though, has no idea of some of these more advanced strategies - and they are the ones that are thus more susceptible to not only being targeted for attacks but also more susceptible to actually falling for the attack vectors. The average user is akin to the average driver above, whereas advanced geeks like those of us here are more akin to race-driver trained / Advanced driving trained drivers (think driver training for LE and other entities that are trained to stop criminals, and such).As an example, one could readily say having anti-lock brakes is worthless, as the user can control the braking of the vehicle at any given moment. And yet, the average driver is not trained on how to apply different braking techniques in different scenarios, and to help augment the driver, a safety feature like anti-lock brakes becomes an additional layer to help minimize complete loss of traction in various scenarios. It's not perfect, but it helps, especially for the uninitiated.
If they weren't, the forums at so many different anti-malware and help forums wouldn't be inundated with users constantly seeking help with infection removal. Yes, we could educate the average user to do more and be more proactive in managing their own security - but some users don't have time for that. For a retiree, for someone who works in the (IT and related)) industry, sure, not too hard to get them on board, maybe, but too many factors come into play where it is simply not feasible for the end-user to completely manage their own security - a single mother working 3 jobs, but her kids need internet access for class work, or a married couple with 3 kids, a college student working and taking an overload of classes to graduate early, and so many other examples I could go on and on listing.
Now - let it be known - I have a lifetime license for MB for my machines. However, I routinely ALSO run at times without it actually installed on my machine for a variety of reasons. Right now, for example, I'm restoring files from a HD that I accidentally formatted much like in this thread External Hard drive formatted / deleted while installing windows 10 Both Defender and MB will find files on it that will drive them nuts as they are being restored - because there are part of known file repositories that are not malicious in and of themselves, but can be used for malicious purpose (SysInternal files and NirSoft files, to be exact). Now wanting to deal with the headaches, I've not installed MB since my last clean install (After I did the playing around with Server 2022). But Defender and MB are not my only layers - and I'm relatively sure that I can either prevent the majority of attacks with the other layers I use, or else fix most problems that might get through those layers and make it to my system in the first place/
But the vast majority of people in the world with internet connected computers simply don't know how to do that, and additionally do not have the time to learn (or the wherewithal, the desire, etc.). So, products that augment Defender are and will continue to be around.
Malwarebytes for Windows v4.3.0.98 - CU 1.0.1249 was released Friday, 2-April-2021.
Announcement: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...omment=1449376
Issue fixed:
- Fixed: Win 7 machines - mbam.exe crashing and uninstall/reinstall does not fix it