Windows 10: Windows Defender vs. Kaspersky Internet Security Solved

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  1. Posts : 480
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
       01 Jan 2016 #1

    Windows Defender vs. Kaspersky Internet Security


    I've got Kaspersky KIS 2016 installed on Win10 and have turned (or tried to turn) Windows Defender off via Group Policy. It even says it's bee turned off. But Speccy v1.28.709 says:
    Windows Defender
    Windows Defender Enabled
    Firewall
    Firewall Enabled
    Display Name Kaspersky Internet Security
    Antivirus
    Antivirus Disabled
    Display Name Windows Defender
    Virus Signature Database Up to date

    On a Win7 PC, Speccy says"
    Windows Defender
    Windows Defender Enabled
    Firewall
    Firewall Enabled
    Display Name Kaspersky Internet Security
    Antivirus
    Antivirus Enabled
    Display Name Kaspersky Internet Security
    Virus Signature Database Up to date

    Now, that "Windows Defender Enabled" on both PCs is a bit worrisome, but I assume (hope!) it's a Speccy bug. What about the Win10 antivirus status? Is that also the Speccy problem? Do I really have no antivirus support active on Win10, or is Speccy just looking in the wrong place? Kaspersky thinks all is well, but I don't know if it can really tell.
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  2.    02 Jan 2016 #2

    pokeefe0001 said: View Post
    I've got Kaspersky KIS 2016 installed on Win10 and have turned (or tried to turn) Windows Defender off via Group Policy. It even says it's bee turned off. But Speccy v1.28.709 says:
    Windows Defend...
    TL/DR, you dont know what antivirus to choose. Both Defender and Kapersky are mediocre antivirus programs, but Microsoft does have an advantage in updated virus definitions and supported operating systems. As it comes with Windows already, it seems too good to be true. Kapersky is overpriced and clunky. Not meaning to bash Kapersky, but they got nothing on Microsoft in finding brand spanking new viruses. Even though I primarily use AVG (which is great), Windows Defender seems like a more promising choice when it comes to more thorough scans, and a simple interface so even your "grandma" can do it. As for "Windows Defender Enabled", Windows doesn't let you disable the self-protection interface completely. It's just for your safety and peace of mind. Honestly, I wouldn't choose either. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Free and AVG Free are just fine for me.
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  3.    02 Jan 2016 #3

    To each his own. No antivirus is 100% good/great. It's just subjective. You have to add more security layers to be protected, and you can't be sure 100% either. An antivirus program alone isn't enough. You need to protect your browser(s) too.

    Also, did you know AVG "spy" on you? And that it installs some dubious extensions on your browsers?

    I don't want to bash AVG either, it's as good as anything else.
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  4. Posts : 480
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
    Thread Starter
       02 Jan 2016 #4

    Ok. So some people like one security package (antivirus, firewall, et al.); others like others. I like Kaspersky and see no reason to change. But that really has nothing to do with my original question. Speccy says I've got antivirus disabled on Win10; it says I've got Kaspersky enabled on Win7. Is this a problem with Speccy or Kaspersky? How do I find out?
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  5. Posts : 480
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
    Thread Starter
       02 Jan 2016 #5

    I've answered my own question. I tried an EICAR antivirus test. I was able to save a file containing the eicar test string, but Kaspersky deleted the file what I tried accessing it. My Kaspersky antivirus is obviously working. The Belarc Advisor could see I was running Kaspersky antivirus. I guess Speccy has a problem with Win10..
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  6.    02 Jan 2016 #6

    pokeefe0001 said: View Post
    I've answered my own question. I tried an EICAR antivirus test. I was able to save a file containing the eicar test string, but Kaspersky deleted the file what I tried accessing it. My Kaspersky antivirus is obviously working. The Belarc Advisor could see I was running Kaspersky antivirus. I guess Speccy has a problem with Win10..
    Windows defender does stay on somewhat....BUT if Windows defender was active <--- You would be getting updates everyday for Defender. That's the best way to tell if its ACTIVE.....just look in your update history. (Under Update & Security) :)
    I think you will find no recent updates for Defender.
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  7. Vladimir's Avatar
    Posts : 713
    Windows 10 Build 14267
       03 Jan 2016 #7

    Defender is good for most users; but Avast is the best in my humble opinion.

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  8. Posts : 13
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       30 Jan 2016 #8

    Vladimir said: View Post
    Defender is good for most users; but Avast is the best in my humble opinion.

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    Recently I've found Avast free slowing down clients' machines. Based on my experiences, I'm more & more tempted to push them towards paying for KIS.
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  9.    30 Jan 2016 #9

    pokeefe0001 said: View Post
    I've answered my own question. I tried an EICAR antivirus test. I was able to save a file containing the eicar test string, but Kaspersky deleted the file what I tried accessing it. My Kaspersky antivirus is obviously working. The Belarc Advisor could see I was running Kaspersky antivirus. I guess Speccy has a problem with Win10..
    Go into the settings and see if defender is turned on or not. If you see an image like the one below you have Kaspersky on. I'm currently using a third party AV and this is what I get.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    I hope this answers your question
    Jeff
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  10.    30 Jan 2016 #10

    I have KIS 2016 and Defender is turned off during the installation - you should see the screen at post 9. I'm quite pleased with the performance and features of KIS 2016, especially since I have a free licence from my bank :)
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