1. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2
    Windows 7
       02 Dec 2015 #1

    Is WINDOWS 10 Built in Security Sufficient?

    Hello All,

    I am preparing to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my Dell Inspiron 560S (64 bit) and have a question about security. I know someone who has a degree in Network Administration (although he doesn't work in that field) who says that the built in firewall and Windows Defender are all you need. Do you agree?

    I tried searching the forum to see if this question has been asked and found nothing.

    What's the consensus of the group?

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  2. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,142
       02 Dec 2015 #2

    ROADSTER said: View Post
    Hello All,

    I am preparing to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my Dell Inspiron 560S (64 bit) and have a question about security. I know someone who has a degree in Network Administration (although he doesn't work in that field) who says that the built in firewall and Windows Defender are all you need. Do you agree?

    I tried searching the forum to see if this question has been asked and found nothing.

    What's the consensus of the group?

    Hi Roadster and welcome to Tenforums.

    I'll respectfully disagree with your friend, and suggest that you add some "layers" of protection:

    Malwarebytes Antimalware (free version has to be updated and run manually, Pro/paid version works nicely with Defender)
    Malwarebytes AntiExploit free
    SuperAntiSpyware free (updates and scans are manual)
    CryptoPrevent (again, updates are manual in the free version)

    Each of these programs has their own specialty, and compliment the basic Defender-Windows Firewall protection. Working together, you should be pretty well protected. Another thing I would recommend is using Firefox with Java & Flash set to "Ask to activate", and the LastPass add-on. As Edge doesn't support extensions yet, I would limit using it for now.

    Good luck!
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  3. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2
    Windows 7
       03 Dec 2015 #3

    Thank you simrick. Just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there using Windows 10 that is using only the built-in Windows security?
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    In a house with a crazy cat trying to kill me
    Posts : 11,380
    Win 7 32, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1 64 Pro, Win 10 64 Education Edition
       03 Dec 2015 #4

    There are people that use only the basic built in security. Some are happy with it. A lot depends on your surfing habits. If you are cautious you may avoid getting anything nasty. But the odds are against you, even with a layered approach due to the high number of viruses/malware being released every day/hour.

    Nothing gets everything 100% of the time. Hence the layered approach is the best.
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  5. Joined : Jul 2014
    San Jose, California
    Posts : 1,951
    Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64 Win10Prox64
       03 Dec 2015 #5

    Personally I only use WD plus a free version of Malwarebytes. IMHO, all anti virus softwares are just junks. Never use them, never will.
    My only protection is to make at least 2 backup images of Windows using: Macrium Reflect Free in case I got any virus or my PC behaves strangely then it only takes at most 3~5 minutes to get back online since I use SSD's for my Windows and backup drives. Most people might not agree with me and that's fine.

    Here's my reasons for not using them:
    1. I always watch where I surf. If I got a popup that seems suspicious. Open the task manager and kill the browser, don't even answer Yes or No to the question. These answers are sometimes deceiving, Answer Yes is Yes, answer No is still Yes.
    2. Never open any strange emails. Just delete them.
    3. Viruses are being created everyday, hour, minute, second... so the Anti Virus software is only good if they have it in their definition database which requires constant updates from you. So where do these companies get the definition from ? The answer is the first person who got it then reported it. If you did not get the update in time, your system is still vulnerable for virus attack. That's why there's different opinions on different Anti Virus softwares.
    4. Anti Virus software would sometimes slow your PC down to its knee.
    5. Often causes BSOD.
    6. If one of the system files got infected by virus and the software will clean it causing missing system file in Windows, in turn causing it to be broken.
    7. Never install freeware without reading every single screen for other offers.
    8. Turn off Autorun. Even though it's convenient to have this option, However, Hackers use this as a way to sneak into your PC.
    Last edited by topgundcp; 03 Dec 2015 at 21:15.
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  6. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 16
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Build 14393
       03 Dec 2015 #6

    I do use the Windows 10 build-in firewall and also MSE. Apart from that i do add EMET as another security layer, malwarebyte anti-malware free edition for additional scanner. With these setup it is good enough for me as home user.
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  7. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,142
       03 Dec 2015 #7

    Just FYI: Malwarebytes AntiExploit free, SuperAntiSpyware free, and CryptoPrevent are not AVs - they are browser/system protection against unknown attacks that have not been identified yet by the AVs.
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  8. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 33
    Windows 10
       03 Dec 2015 #8

    I will also confirm that Win10 Defender and Win10 Firewall along with the occasional scan of MalewareBytes Free is my primary weapons for protection. MB Free is primarily used to clean malware if I suspect I'm infected. MB Free seems to always get my pc back to a healthy status after it removes all detected malware, so I strongly recommend it as well. Optionally, I also use as an additional layer MalewareBytes Anti-Exploit and Spyware Blaster as passive protection from known browser vulnerabilities.
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  9.    03 Dec 2015 #9

    I run Windows 10 with default security settings. However, I run an alternative browser which is 'locked down' pretty tight, also, I don't visit 'social' type sights that are heavy laden with clickable 'nasties'!
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  10. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 30
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       04 Dec 2015 #10

    Well, I decided to ditch every antivirus solution completely and switched to Defender, running alongside Windows Firewall and Malwarebytes Free + Anti Exploit.

    I'm starting to adore Defender on just how light it is on my laptop. Its barely noticeable, and honestly the protection isn't bad at all! As many users here previously stated, no antivirus is perfect. It all depends on how you use your computer. So I figured, why splash money on security suites when you can use logic alongside Defender?

    Also to note, I'm using Edge browser with SmartScreen turned on and I can say that I am very impressed. On my VM, SmartScreen managed to block every malicious URL before it could fully open! It only missed two samples which eitherway got removed by Defender. So I'm very happy with my settings so far: Windows Defender + Windows Firewall + Malwarebyes Free (For the occasional scan) + Malwarebytes Antiexploit + Edge browser with SmartScreen turned on + Logical thinking. And unlike other solutions/settings, it doesn't eat my computer resources at all.

    I just came across the new AV-Test results for Windows 10 and I thought you may want to check it out: Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - October 2015 | AV-TEST

    As you can see Defender 4.7 moved from 0.5 points for protection on Windows 8.1 to 3.5 on Windows 10. Yay to that!
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