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  1.    25 Nov 2015 #1
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    Windows 10 Pro Microsoft Security Essentials and No Windows Defender?


    Looks like MSE not removed during upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Cannot find anyway to removed MSE now.

    Windows Defender will not run and MSE is a not listed program on the machine.

    Belarc Advisor shows:

    Virus definitions are older than 30 days

    Microsoft Security Essentials Version 4.6.0305.0
    Scan Engine Version 1.1.11005.0
    Virus Definitions Version 9/23/2014 Rev 1.185.967.0
    Realtime File Scanning Off

    What's the solution for this?
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  2.    25 Nov 2015 #2
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    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10

    Do you have another AV program running ??? Sometime that AV program will disable the built-in MSE and WD
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  3.    25 Nov 2015 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyhi View Post
    Do you have another AV program running ??? Sometime that AV program will disable the built-in MSE and WD

    No Other AV running. Was told Norton Security was installed at one time but removed. I ran Norton Removal Tool but no change.
    Directory in C:\Programs with MSE but is Empty.
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  4.    25 Nov 2015 #4
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    Belarc Advisor warns about Definition over 30 days old.

    I Looked in Registry but nothing. WD and MSE from same company?

    What if I use Local Group Policy Editor and turn on Windows Defender?
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  5.    25 Nov 2015 #5
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    Poole Dorset UK
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    Windows 10 x64 Home Build (Version 1709) 16299.19

    Have you tried reinstalling MSE again and then completely remove it
    Or have you tried Revo Uninstaller you can try it for 30 day trial
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  6.    25 Nov 2015 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    Have you tried reinstalling MSE again and then completely remove it
    Or have you tried Revo Uninstaller you can try it for 30 day trial
    Yes. I thought about reinstalling MSE but did not want to mess up machine if failed.

    I use Local Group Policy Editor and turn on Windows Defender. Restarted machine.
    WD would open. I enabled and downloaded definitions. It did a quick scan, Looks normal in Security like it working now.

    I went back into Local Group Policy Editor and return setting to Not configured. Restarted. WD is on and active now.

    Belarc Advisor shows the same message as before.

    Should I try to reinstall MSE now and uninstall?
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  7.    25 Nov 2015 #7
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    Poole Dorset UK
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    Windows 10 x64 Home Build (Version 1709) 16299.19

    No if WD working ok see how it goes ok.
    Also have you updated Belarc Advisor as I believe it might be out of date, and that is what is giving you the false reading.
    I had it once when it kept telling me I had two updates out of date but they were not.
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  8.    25 Nov 2015 #8
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    OK. That was far to easy. I will monitor and update Belarc.
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  9.    25 Nov 2015 #9
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    windows 10 Home threshold2

    Quote Originally Posted by WizardIL View Post
    Should I try to reinstall MSE now and uninstall?
    You can't do that even if you try.
    Windows Defender is the "improved" version of MSE.
    If you try to install MSE, the system will NOT let you do that because you already have Windows Defender.
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  10.    26 Nov 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhk View Post
    You can't do that even if you try.
    Windows Defender is the "improved" version of MSE.
    If you try to install MSE, the system will NOT let you do that because you already have Windows Defender.
    It guess it "improved". I think MSE was not uninstall right or Norton destroy it. WD was working until I restarted.

    I took a snapshot of a working WD registry. Registry says enabled, and I can open and it has control of firewall and virus. When updates try to download it saying no network connected can not complete update. Looks like when ever WD tries update it wants send update to MSE location. The working snapshot value is 0 and this machine value is 8 and will not allow a change.

    I thought MSE and WD software was same company. WD uses MSE basic frame with improvements. He will have to reinstall Windows 7 or a clean install of Windows 10.
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