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  1. Joined : Feb 2016
    New Hampshire
    Posts : 5
    Windows 10, Windows Server 2012 R2, Raspian
       05 Feb 2016 #21

    dencal said: View Post
    The point you are making is no longer relevant....my quote which you are using was when Emet was in Beta.
    EMET 5.5 was released in final version 1/29/2016.
    I disagree. Microsoft still recommends running .NET updates prior to running EMET in 5.5.
    It specifically suggests it in the latest installer.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15014
       24 Feb 2016 #22
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  3. Joined : Mar 2016
    Posts : 4
    windows 10
       01 Apr 2016 #23

    Hi! May I ask yo a question? I succeded to add programs to emet. But I can't understand how to make metro apps ( this from w store ) to run in emet.
    Could you please tell me if there is a way?
    Thank you in advance
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15014
       09 Aug 2016 #24

    New Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET) 5.5.1. See first post for more details.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15014
       04 Nov 2016 #25
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15014
       19 Nov 2016 #26

    New Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET) 5.5.2 released. See first post for more details.
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  7. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,964
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       21 Nov 2016 #27

    An interesting find I made for the EMET geeks:
    Visualizing Protections With and Without EMET

    To help visualize what EMET can do for us, it is useful to enumerate the exploit mitigations for various Windows versions, both with and without EMET.
    When it comes to system-wide mitigations, there's not much of a difference between a Windows system that has EMET installed and a stock Windows system that has had the mitigations enabled manually. This comparison, illustrated in the figure below, makes the true benefit of EMET clear: application-specific mitigations.


    In Defense of EMET
    Microsoft's statement above overlooks the primary reason for someone to run EMET. In particular, users running EMET to protect applications that do not opt in to all of the exploit mitigations that it should. Even though the underlying Windows operating system supports a mitigation, doing so does not necessarily mean that it will be applied to an application.
    Developer adoption of exploit mitigations takes place at a slower rate than we'd like to see. For example, even Microsoft does not compile all of Office 2010 with the /DYNAMICBASE flag to indicate compatibility with ASLR. What is the impact? An attacker may be able to work around ASLR by causing a non-DYNAMICBASE library to be loaded into the process space of the vulnerable application, potentially resulting in successful exploitation of a memory corruption vulnerability. What do we do to protect ourselves against this situation? We run EMET with application-specific mitigations enabled!

    The Windows 10 EMET Fallacy
    Microsoft strongly implies that if you are running Windows 10, there is no need for EMET anymore. This implication is not true. The reason it's not true is that Windows 10 does not provide the application-specific mitigations that EMET does.
    Windows 10 does indeed provide some nice exploit mitigations. The problem is that the software that you are running needs to be specifically compiled to take advantage of them. Control Flow Guard (CFG) looks to provide similar protections to the ROP application-specific mitigations in EMET. The problem is that the application needs to be specifically compiled to take advantage of CFG. Out of all of the applications you run in your enterprise, do you know which ones are built with CFG support? If an application is not built to use CFG, it doesn't matter if your underlying operating system supports CFG or not.
    Read more, it's pretty interesting: Windows 10 Cannot Protect Insecure Applications Like EMET Can
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  8. Joined : Oct 2014
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    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       21 Nov 2016 #28

    Cliff.
    Your link goes to a blank page,
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  9. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
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    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       21 Nov 2016 #29

    It loads, but takes a long time dencal. just let it load in the background.
    The site is CERT/CC Blog(Home > CERT/CC Blog > Windows 10 Cannot Protect Insecure Applications Like EMET Can ) from SEI
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